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Old 01-18-2014, 12:50 PM   #1
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I'm gunna be an amateur boxer and I take a nitric oxide supplement called NO3 chrome. It's not a stimulant and it doesn't have creatine and caffeine in it. Am I allowed to take it?

I just wanna make sure I'm allowed to take it.
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Old 01-18-2014, 07:20 PM   #3
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Ask your coach about supplements? That's like asking your doctor for rock climbing tips, odds are the answer is going to be bullshit.

Contacting the organization that sets up your matches and asking them would be a better idea, if they're unsure they can put you in contact with someone who will know.
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Ask your coach about supplements? That's like asking your doctor for rock climbing tips, odds are the answer is going to be bullshit.

Contacting the organization that sets up your matches and asking them would be a better idea, if they're unsure they can put you in contact with someone who will know.
Any decent coach can contact those people and probably has a rulebook with a list of prohibited supplements/substances. He probably knows them if he's the coach.

Which was my point.

Asking people on the internet is more like asking a rock climbing coach for medical advice. If a bunch of people tell you, 'Oh, that's OK, nothing illegal there' and you later find out they were wrong and you get DQ'ed or suspended, the amateur boxing authorities won't give you a pass if you tell them, "but the anonymous people on the message board said it was OK.'

Your coach can find out from the people who run your LBC or from USA Boxing (or whatever authority runs things where you are).
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Any decent coach can contact those people and probably has a rulebook with a list of prohibited supplements/substances. He probably knows them if he's the coach.

Which was my point.

Asking people on the internet is more like asking a rock climbing coach for medical advice. If a bunch of people tell you, 'Oh, that's OK, nothing illegal there' and you later find out they were wrong and you get DQ'ed or suspended, the amateur boxing authorities won't give you a pass if you tell them, "but the anonymous people on the message board said it was OK.'

Your coach can find out from the people who run your LBC or from USA Boxing (or whatever authority runs things where you are).
From 20 different coaches i have met in my life only two of of them would do what you just describe. And they post on ESB. The irony.
The one who wouldnt contact anything is a head coach for a WSb top team. He actually believes that drinking whey protein adds unnecessary muscle mass.
Most of the coaches i have met or who trained me knows jack ****ing shit about supplements or nutrition.
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Any decent coach can contact those people and probably has a rulebook with a list of prohibited supplements/substances. He probably knows them if he's the coach.

Which was my point.

Asking people on the internet is more like asking a rock climbing coach for medical advice. If a bunch of people tell you, 'Oh, that's OK, nothing illegal there' and you later find out they were wrong and you get DQ'ed or suspended, the amateur boxing authorities won't give you a pass if you tell them, "but the anonymous people on the message board said it was OK.'

Your coach can find out from the people who run your LBC or from USA Boxing (or whatever authority runs things where you are).
Realistically, since the vast majority of coaches are ignorant on anything non-boxing, it's more likely he'll say something like "Supplements?! You're a boxer not a body builder!" instead of doing any kind of research into the matter.
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I'm just wondering like have you guys ever heard of boxers taking Nitric Oxide supplements?
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What you messing about with this sh1t for?

People always want easy solutions..
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I'm just wondering like have you guys ever heard of boxers taking Nitric Oxide supplements?
The first step is to explain what the supplement is and why you're using it.
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Old 01-19-2014, 05:53 PM   #10
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All it is is a nitric oxide workout supplement that makes oxygen go to your muscles when you lift. It's not a stimulant and there is no creatine and no caffeine in it. I think it just helps you workout longer. I'm pretty sure I've heard of professional boxers taking it I'm just wondering if anyone has heard of amateur boxers taking it
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All it is is a nitric oxide workout supplement that makes oxygen go to your muscles when you lift. It's not a stimulant and there is no creatine and no caffeine in it. I think it just helps you workout longer. I'm pretty sure I've heard of professional boxers taking it I'm just wondering if anyone has heard of amateur boxers taking it
You don't even know what this supplement does to your body yet you consume it anyway? Just

Stop wasting your money and eat some food instead.
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Yeah I do I just told you it's not bad for you it's a dietary supplement. I just wanna know if I'm allowed to take it in amateur boxing like is there a list of some sort I can see
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Yeah I do I just told you it's not bad for you it's a dietary supplement. I just wanna know if I'm allowed to take it in amateur boxing like is there a list of some sort I can see
You got to ask yourself do you really need it? And when you decide to take a supplement you have to know what it does to you. Look it up.
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From 20 different coaches i have met in my life only two of of them would do what you just describe. And they post on ESB. The irony.
The one who wouldnt contact anything is a head coach for a WSb top team. He actually believes that drinking whey protein adds unnecessary muscle mass.
Most of the coaches i have met or who trained me knows jack ****ing shit about supplements or nutrition.
Do you really know that for sure? I mean you boxed for all 20 or knew boxers who did and the coaches were asked and 18 declined to find out? Or you just figure they wouldn't?

I don't find it difficult to believe that the coaches might tell the boxer not to mess with supplements of any kind for a lot of different reasons, and that those who look for shortcuts don't want that for an answer ... because they want to do something they think will give them an advantage other than working hard and learning their craft better.

You ought to give coaching a try sometime. Field some of these queries -- let a guy come to you 25 different times in two months with different questions about things he can take to get better ... and you answer 'well you can start by working 3 minutes a round instead of stopping in the middle to ask me a question' ... and see if you want to call your regional or national boxing commission about every GNC product he asks you about when you know full well he isn't putting in the work.

That's my experience when I was coaching. Most of the people in the gym who continually ask these questions will listen to anyone but their boxing coach: the guy at Gold's gym pushing the stuff on him, his uncle who played football, the trainer who tapes ankles for track athletes at the local university, etc.

When I had someone who was a serious boxer who was doing all the things I asked of him (or her) and giving it their all every day, I'd do anything for them. I expect most any coach worth his salt would.

But I would first want to know: why do you want to take this? If the answer was something that could be achieved without taking it, I'd say let's not take shortcuts. Let's outwork people. Let's build toughness by doing it the hard way. If there is something that can't be achieved without a legal supplement, I'd love to know what that is. And if it's an illegal supplement, any coach who would condone it should be banned outright.

I wouldn't ever want a boxer I was training to be taking anything that might end up getting them banned or suspended if they got drug tested. It would reflect poorly on them, on me and on our gym and our team.

Matty, if you haven't asked your coach, I have to ask why? If he says it's too much trouble to find out an answer, look elsewhere. Or are you more worried that he will tell you something you don't want to hear?
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Do you really know that for sure? I mean you boxed for all 20 or knew boxers who did and the coaches were asked and 18 declined to find out? Or you just figure they wouldn't?

I don't find it difficult to believe that the coaches might tell the boxer not to mess with supplements of any kind for a lot of different reasons, and that those who look for shortcuts don't want that for an answer ... because they want to do something they think will give them an advantage other than working hard and learning their craft better.

You ought to give coaching a try sometime. Field some of these queries -- let a guy come to you 25 different times in two months with different questions about things he can take to get better ... and you answer 'well you can start by working 3 minutes a round instead of stopping in the middle to ask me a question' ... and see if you want to call your regional or national boxing commission about every GNC product he asks you about when you know full well he isn't putting in the work.

That's my experience when I was coaching. Most of the people in the gym who continually ask these questions will listen to anyone but their boxing coach: the guy at Gold's gym pushing the stuff on him, his uncle who played football, the trainer who tapes ankles for track athletes at the local university, etc.

When I had someone who was a serious boxer who was doing all the things I asked of him (or her) and giving it their all every day, I'd do anything for them. I expect most any coach worth his salt would.

But I would first want to know: why do you want to take this? If the answer was something that could be achieved without taking it, I'd say let's not take shortcuts. Let's outwork people. Let's build toughness by doing it the hard way. If there is something that can't be achieved without a legal supplement, I'd love to know what that is. And if it's an illegal supplement, any coach who would condone it should be banned outright.

I wouldn't ever want a boxer I was training to be taking anything that might end up getting them banned or suspended if they got drug tested. It would reflect poorly on them, on me and on our gym and our team.

Matty, if you haven't asked your coach, I have to ask why? If he says it's too much trouble to find out an answer, look elsewhere. Or are you more worried that he will tell you something you don't want to hear?
Great post mate and absolutely bang on.

It's wasted here though and alas will fall on deaf ears.

All he wants to do is to take his nitric oxide.
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