how much damage has don king done to the sport of boxing?

[chrisroxthem]

i think quite alot. fortunately, he is getting older and seems to be fizzling out. i

[brooklyn1550]

Originally Posted by Novirasputin

These guys sign with King and are then surprised at how bad they get it.
What do you expect?

[thesandman]

Without Don King there would have been no Rumble in the Jungle.

Don King has put on some simply brilliant cards. And also has royally screwed many many fighters.

[guillermojm]

Originally Posted by Novirasputin

Well to be fair the damage is also perpetuated by fighters themselves who
a. sign with him
b. start to bitch about being screwed by him (they made the mistake)
c. ask for more money and stall (you can't do that and expect to earn more money after inactivity). Ideally fighters should have their next fight done and signed 1 week after the first. That time frame needs to include like a month or a few weeks for vacation, and then back to training.


These guys sign with King and are then surprised at how bad they get it.
What do you expect?

yea but the sport is pretty much controled by him or his friends so if you want anything to get done you pretty much have to go through him....


then we read about boxers like spinks working at mc'ds while ****s like this are living it up, i would shave his head and make him return all that money he screwed out of boxers

[guillermojm]

Originally Posted by thesandman

Without Don King there would have been no Rumble in the Jungle.

i would probably trade that fight for the MILLION other fights he has ****ed us out of who knows what we missed

[thesandman]

Originally Posted by guillermojm

yea but the sport is pretty much controled by him or his friends so if you want anything to get done you pretty much have to go through him....


then we read about boxers like spinks working at mc'ds while ****s like this are living it up, i would shave his head and make him return all that money he screwed out of boxers

Parts of boxing are, you're right. Guys do deal with him all the time and not get screwed though.

Larry Holmes was quoted as saying something like "I made more money being screwed by Don King, than being treated fairly by any other promoter".

Thing is, some boxers aren't the sharpest tools in the shed. And they're gong to be taken advantage of in any walk of life. Look at Tyson.

Yes, King ****ed him over. But there's no way he should be broke.

[thesandman]

Originally Posted by guillermojm

i would probably trade that fight for the MILLION other fights he has ****ed us out of who knows what we missed

That was an example. He's put on some great cards, with multiple title fights in one night, on the same card.

How many of those do we get now?

[guillermojm]

i just hate seeing him in the ring its a reminder he has his hands in everyones pocket,

but whats done is done we cant change history i just hope oscar doesnt follow in his footsteps...

[chrisroxthem]

i dont think he will oscar seems like an honest businessman

[guillermojm]

you got it wrong we are not argueing how smart tyson is or what he spent his money on i read he trashed over 300 mill but the point is king still ****ED him

i dont care what i throw away MY money on i just dont want someone else throwing away my money hah

tyson blew 300 mill and if king wasnt there he probably would have trashed 600 mill but its his money get what i am saying?

[thesandman]

Originally Posted by guillermojm

you got it wrong we are not argueing how smart tyson is or what he spent his money on i read he trashed over 300 mill but the point is king still ****ED him

i dont care what i throw away MY money on i just dont want someone else throwing away my money hah

tyson blew 300 mill and if king wasnt there he probably would have trashed 600 mill but its his money get what i am saying?

No. Without Don King he wouldn't have had 300 million in the first place, let alone 600.

[Farmboxer]

Compare the crowds in Germany Vs. the crowds in America. Compare Calzaghe Vs. anyone in England, etc. Don King vs. Don King fighters has ruined boxing.

[Lostmykeys]

I don't think he has done as much damage as many people appear to think he has.

IMO guys like Arum and others are just as bad.

[guillermojm]

but you get my point? it doesnt matter if its 300 mill 600 mill or 10 bucks the point is the same king still ****ed him out of his money......

[guillermojm]

Originally Posted by Novirasputin

King ****ed him because King is a brand.
No other promoter is a brand name.

Its like wearing Gucci shoes or other expensive clothing.
It says something about you.

So King takes a big cut and steals and shit (and i know he does) cause the value of his brand added to the fighter is what he banks on.

I think its bullshit but that is how they think.

so what your saying is that no matter who he has ****ed, the sport of boxing is still better because of him?

i dont know maybe your right.....we'll never know because i am sure we have missed out on alot of fights because he wasnt making enough...