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Old 05-26-2014, 06:27 AM   #1
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when the computer fight with ali and marciano by Murray Woroner happened...before that maybe 3 years, was a fantasy tournament that was staged on radio with commentary (1967?)....all the top heavyweight champs pitted against each other......i have searched for them recordings online without any luck...i would love to hear them......just chancing my arm asking you's...someone may know where to point me.

there was also a middleweight tournament too.
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Old 05-26-2014, 06:51 AM   #2
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I've always wanted to hear these recordings too
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Old 05-26-2014, 06:51 AM   #3
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when the computer fight with ali and marciano by Murray Woroner happened...before that maybe 3 years, was a fantasy tournament that was staged on radio with commentary (1967?)....all the top heavyweight champs pitted against each other......i have searched for them recordings online without any luck...i would love to hear them......just chancing my arm asking you's...someone may know where to point me.

there was also a middleweight tournament too.
I know they were featured in the Ring magazine and that Hank Kaplan and Nat Fleischer were the selectors of the boxers.
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Old 05-26-2014, 04:14 PM   #4
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I think that the original 1967 radio tournament fantasy fights are on the bonus disk that came with the DVD, "The Superfight...Marciano vs. Ali" released in 2005...
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Old 05-26-2014, 04:35 PM   #5
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i remember asking that before....i thought it was....but dvd was a huge price when i went to buy it........but...i just got a copy from america for 16 euros inc post through amazon there now.
thanks rockyjim...you're right...its on the dvd....really look forward to this now...i'll rip the mp3's for you's if you want (stevie g ?)
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Old 05-26-2014, 04:59 PM   #6
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I heard a few of those fights when they were broadcast.
I think the final was Dempsey vs Marciano with Marciano winning.
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Old 05-26-2014, 07:09 PM   #7
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There was a computer middleweight "tournament" at that time that I remember, vaguely.
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Old 05-27-2014, 03:13 AM   #8
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i remember asking that before....i thought it was....but dvd was a huge price when i went to buy it........but...i just got a copy from america for 16 euros inc post through amazon there now.
thanks rockyjim...you're right...its on the dvd....really look forward to this now...i'll rip the mp3's for you's if you want (stevie g ?)
I bought the Ali/ Marciano dvd out of curiosity unfortunately it did not include the tournament.
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Old 05-27-2014, 04:06 AM   #9
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christ...I hope I got the right one now....with the radio shows...

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Old 05-27-2014, 10:37 AM   #10
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I bought the Ali-Marciano superfight DVD and it did include the tournament - that was several years ago, though.
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Old 05-27-2014, 12:17 PM   #11
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I bought the Ali-Marciano superfight DVD and it did include the tournament - that was several years ago, though.
Same here. Aside from the simulations, there were some great interviews with Willard, Louis, Marciano, Walcott, Angelo Dundee, Nat Fleischer, Doc Kearns son (wjo, interestingly, said Doc thought that Jack Johnson was the greatest heavy on "potential"), ect.

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Interviewer: Joe, what about a fight between Joe Louis and Rocky Marciano?

Joe Louis: Well, I could say that very easily. Marciano beat me . . .

Interviewer (interupts): Oh, yeah, now that wasn't when you were at your best. I'm talking about when you were at your best, twenty-eight years old.

Joe Louis: Oh, I don't know. Marciano's the type of fighter I think is good enough and strong enough and takes a good enough punch to fight anybody.
I don't think that no one, (unclear word) either Dempsey or me, could say "I could beat Marciano".
I think the fight could be . . . It's close, it'd have to be a close fight, because he's too strong, and he could take a good punch, and he just . . . you just can't say that I could beat him.
I'd like to say that I'd fight him, alright, but who would win, I wouldn't know; but I'd like the pay for the fight -- i think it would draw money, though.


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I think Louis was using 'could' in the sense of 'would'. Certainly, though, he wasn't willing to assert that, at their bests, he (or Dempsey) would have beaten Marciano.
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Old 05-27-2014, 01:16 PM   #12
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I bought the Ali-Marciano superfight DVD and it did include the tournament - that was several years ago, though.
you still got it ?
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you still got it ?
Unfortunately I no longer have it.
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Old 06-09-2014, 08:17 AM   #14
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got the dvd today....oh boy !!

only just put it on there...listening to dempsey v marciano as i type....build up is on..they are interviewing joe louis on how fight is going to go....crowd noise in background....this is going to be great i think...i'll try and rip this to mp3's for anyone wants it.

what a treat



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Old 06-09-2014, 04:55 PM   #15
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having awful problems trying to rip this dvd....best copy protection i ever seen on a dvd.

but this is just epic...i've listened to dempsey v marciano twice already....its a bloodbath..the atmosphere just jumps from the speakers...its so very well done...far better than i expected.

really looking forward to getting some of this on youtube so i can read the reactions of any of you that listen to it.
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