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Old 06-05-2014, 05:43 PM   #1
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I had no idea a favorite bartender of mine was a huge boxing fan
and sparred with Gerry Cooney, trained at Ziggy's I believe in Jersey
City and confirmed Golota was phenomenal in the gym but looked like he
didn't want to be there. Anyway he said of course Gerry's power and
size was incredible and he had good anticipation my friend wasn't amateur
or pro, but anyway Id love to hear some sparring stories if anyone has
sparred with well known fighters or has stories. A former poster had sparred
with Wlad and fought Lennox and said Wlad's jab was extremely powerful.
Anyway any stories?
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Old 06-05-2014, 06:11 PM   #2
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Love threads like this.

Any sparring stories in RJJ, Hearns, Eubank and Toney would be great.
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Old 06-05-2014, 07:08 PM   #3
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I get a laugh every time a big fight comes around a story 'leaks' out from one of the training camps that a sparring partner has decked one of the guys. I guess one or two of them might even have been true.
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Frank ****** and Frank Maloney were paying Eubank to spar with Tony Collins and Rod Douglas throughout the summer of 1987 at the Henry Cooper gym in London. I was there and Eubank looked very poor (wealth-wise), and always remember him practicing single right hooks and single left uppercuts on the speedbag!!

Douglas and Collins were the ones being invested in to turn pro, but neither achieved what Eubank did, obviously! Eubank was tougher, Douglas and Collins would always be the first to look for a way out when the sparring got intense.


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Old 06-05-2014, 10:59 PM   #5
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The best sparring story I've heard of was Dempsey koing Galento in an improtu session. I'm sure Burt has some interesting ones from his days at Stillman's!
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The best sparring story I've heard of was Dempsey koing Galento in an improtu session. I'm sure Burt has some interesting ones from his days at Stillman's!
Found this:

At one stage Jack Dempsey thought Tony ''Two Ton'' Galento had the making of a champion. Dempsey at one time try to persuade Galento to his Montana ranch to toughen him up. Tony gibbed. ''It'II do you the world of good'' argued Dempsey. You will be right away from night clubs and booze'' What's that said Galento, ''No booze?'' Dat's just stoopid, Jack, Booze makes a guy strong''

Due to Dempsey having so much faith in Galento, Ray Arcel agreed to train him. ''I told Jack it was a waste of time and money but he was convinced that Galento could be shaped into a world beaten and since we were good friends I agreed said Arcel.

Right from the start it didnt work, Galento was just bone lazy. Half the time he didnt even bother to turn up at the gym, and when he did he only loafed around. I soon got tired of this and told Dempsey so. ''Take the guy somewere else, Jack I said ''He's driving us all crazy around here''

On afternoon, Dempsey strolled quietly into Stillman's gym on eight avenue and after passing the time of day with several old pals, walked up on to the balcony while Galento was going through the motions of working out. He was fatter than ever, hopelessly out of condition and quite obviously doing nothing about it.

Anyway he didn't see Dempsey and continued waddling lazily around the ring, clowning wisecracking and grinning as he fooled with his sparring parthers. After watching a couple of rounds Dempsey came down to ringside. He was wearing a beautifully - cut light grey suit, tan and white shoes, and white silk shirt and when Tony caught a sight of him, he waved a glove at the ex champ.

''Hiya'' Jack he grinned. ''You look like a million bucks dis afternnon'' Dempsey gave him a mean look, ''never mind how I look, you big bum he said, lets see you do some work''

Galento must have thought he was joking, said Arcel, because he made no atempt to speed up his work and carried on ambling around until Dempsey blew up. ''Have you a pair of Gloves Ray? said Dempsey. Then taking off his coat, he stripped right down to his white silk, monogrammed underpants and vaulted into the ring.

''Now Tony'' he said ''it's you and me. I'II show you how we used to do it'' He began huming a little tune - and old Dempsey mannerism- and then, as Galento backed away, he flashed into action. Jack was turned forty, but his body was as lean and tanned as ever, and for three memorable minutes we saw the old Dempsey, the muderous, tearaway Manassa Mauler of the 1920's.

He ripped punchers into Galento's podgy torso from all angles, split his lips with a terrific left and sent the blood spurting from his nose. ''Lay Off Jack'' Galento gasped as he staggered backwards vainly trying to cover up. But Dempsey showed him no mercy, he chased after him until I called time said Arcel.

Still breathing easily Dempsey ducked under the ropes and began to dress, while Galento stood shaking his head in a semi daze and trying to wipe the blood from his face with the back of his gloves.

When dressed, Dempsey gave him one contemptuous look. ''That's how we used to fight Galento he said. ''Now am through with you, you can find yourself another manager'' and another trainer said Arcel.

You were right Ray, it was a waste of time trying to make a champ out of that chump said Dempsey.
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:21 AM   #7
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At one stage Jack Dempsey thought Tony ''Two Ton'' Galento had the making of a champion...
Great find!! Thanks so much for posting this, I really enjoyed reading it!
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Good story is Tyson getting knocked out cold in sparring by Oliver Mccall 3 weeks before he fought Spinks. Dundee was there and said it. Later confirmed by McCall in an interview.
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Good story is Tyson getting knocked out cold in sparring by Oliver Mccall 3 weeks before he fought Spinks. Dundee was there and said it. Later confirmed by McCall in an interview.
bullshit, anything you say cannot be trusted
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Good story is Tyson getting knocked out cold in sparring by Oliver Mccall 3 weeks before he fought Spinks. Dundee was there and said it. Later confirmed by McCall in an interview.

i checked up on your story and guess what, absolute bullshit.

Greg Page and Berbick beat Tyson up on prior to Douglas.

as for mcall there is plenty of footage of Tyson beating the **** out of him on youtube

mcall actually quit from a body shot
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There is the little known one round sparring session between Tyson Holyfield in 83 or 84, the sparring was so intense they had to be separated and were told never to spar again.

According to Tyrell biggs and Mark Breland, Holyfield got the better of Tyson. According to Holyfields own book, it says there wasn't a winner as such but if/when they do fight it will be won by whoever has more will
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Holyfield also said he used to beat the hell out of Bowe in sparring as did Tyrell biggs. He said Bowe seemed like a quitter and very lazy, one of the reasons he thought bowe would crack in their first fght
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There is the little known one round sparring session between Tyson Holyfield in 83 or 84, the sparring was so intense they had to be separated and were told never to spar again.

According to Tyrell biggs and Mark Breland, Holyfield got the better of Tyson. According to Holyfields own book, it says there wasn't a winner as such but if/when they do fight it will be won by whoever has more will
In matters such as these you would only know the real truth of who dominated who if you were actually there.
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At one stage Jack Dempsey thought Tony ''Two Ton'' Galento had the making of a champion. Dempsey at one time try to persuade Galento to his Montana ranch to toughen him up. Tony gibbed. ''It'II do you the world of good'' argued Dempsey. You will be right away from night clubs and booze'' What's that said Galento, ''No booze?'' Dat's just stoopid, Jack, Booze makes a guy strong''

Due to Dempsey having so much faith in Galento, Ray Arcel agreed to train him. ''I told Jack it was a waste of time and money but he was convinced that Galento could be shaped into a world beaten and since we were good friends I agreed said Arcel.

Right from the start it didnt work, Galento was just bone lazy. Half the time he didnt even bother to turn up at the gym, and when he did he only loafed around. I soon got tired of this and told Dempsey so. ''Take the guy somewere else, Jack I said ''He's driving us all crazy around here''

On afternoon, Dempsey strolled quietly into Stillman's gym on eight avenue and after passing the time of day with several old pals, walked up on to the balcony while Galento was going through the motions of working out. He was fatter than ever, hopelessly out of condition and quite obviously doing nothing about it.

Anyway he didn't see Dempsey and continued waddling lazily around the ring, clowning wisecracking and grinning as he fooled with his sparring parthers. After watching a couple of rounds Dempsey came down to ringside. He was wearing a beautifully - cut light grey suit, tan and white shoes, and white silk shirt and when Tony caught a sight of him, he waved a glove at the ex champ.

''Hiya'' Jack he grinned. ''You look like a million bucks dis afternnon'' Dempsey gave him a mean look, ''never mind how I look, you big bum he said, lets see you do some work''

Galento must have thought he was joking, said Arcel, because he made no atempt to speed up his work and carried on ambling around until Dempsey blew up. ''Have you a pair of Gloves Ray? said Dempsey. Then taking off his coat, he stripped right down to his white silk, monogrammed underpants and vaulted into the ring.

''Now Tony'' he said ''it's you and me. I'II show you how we used to do it'' He began huming a little tune - and old Dempsey mannerism- and then, as Galento backed away, he flashed into action. Jack was turned forty, but his body was as lean and tanned as ever, and for three memorable minutes we saw the old Dempsey, the muderous, tearaway Manassa Mauler of the 1920's.

He ripped punchers into Galento's podgy torso from all angles, split his lips with a terrific left and sent the blood spurting from his nose. ''Lay Off Jack'' Galento gasped as he staggered backwards vainly trying to cover up. But Dempsey showed him no mercy, he chased after him until I called time said Arcel.

Still breathing easily Dempsey ducked under the ropes and began to dress, while Galento stood shaking his head in a semi daze and trying to wipe the blood from his face with the back of his gloves.

When dressed, Dempsey gave him one contemptuous look. ''That's how we used to fight Galento he said. ''Now am through with you, you can find yourself another manager'' and another trainer said Arcel.

You were right Ray, it was a waste of time trying to make a champ out of that chump said Dempsey.
got to repost that little bit of gold on facebook if nobody has any objections....what a great piece.
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got to repost that little bit of gold on facebook if nobody has any objections....what a great piece.
I only found it on the net myself. So no objection from me.

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