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Old 06-07-2014, 12:17 PM   #31
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got to repost that little bit of gold on facebook if nobody has any objections....what a great piece.
It seems that i've read at least a dozen wildly differing versions of this story. Other versions have Dempsey KO'ing Galento with a left hook.

File under: Fiction.
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Old 06-07-2014, 12:58 PM   #32
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It seems that i've read at least a dozen wildly differing versions of this story. Other versions have Dempsey KO'ing Galento with a left hook.

File under: Fiction.
It was reported in the newspapers at the time, around 1936 I believe.
Of course that doesn't make it TRUE either. But the originally version was quite simply that Dempsey gave him a bit of a beating, no KO. It's believable.
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James Toney sparred Vitali Klitshko and played with him , according to Pepper Roach
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Tyson sparred Bruno and Lewis.

Holyfield Tua is on youtube, as is Duran and Benn.

Rqzor ruddock sparred Larry Holmes, that's on Youtube as well as Tyson and carl williams
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James Toney sparred Vitali Klitshko and played with him , according to Pepper Roach
I wouldn't doubt it for a second.

Vitali, IMHO, is so overrated it's comical. Stylistically, James is all wrong for him.
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It was reported in the newspapers at the time, around 1936 I believe.
Of course that doesn't make it TRUE either. But the originally version was quite simply that Dempsey gave him a bit of a beating, no KO. It's believable.
Oh, I believe it happened in some fashion. It's the various versions that come out, replete with Dempsey being "trim and tan as in his prime" bullshit, just dris with the adolescent man love that has distorted the whole Dempsey legacy. Par for the course in regards to Dempsey reporting.
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Oh, I believe it happened in some fashion. It's the various versions that come out, replete with Dempsey being "trim and tan as in his prime" bullshit, just dris with the adolescent man love that has distorted the whole Dempsey legacy. Par for the course in regards to Dempsey reporting.
Fiction is Dempsey having the same skill set as Firpo.
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Old 06-07-2014, 02:40 PM   #38
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That was good reading the entire account of Dempsey-Galento, its the first time I've come across it. Great posting Grumpy!
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Old 06-07-2014, 04:06 PM   #39
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Fiction is Dempsey having the same skill set as Firpo.
Did you take the Burt Reading Comprehension Course?

I was referring to Dempsey at moments in the Firpo fight, running full steam across the ring and throwing hooks from way outside of range, squaring up, off balance, wide openů When he gets on track and finds his range, he's devastating. But his lapses really stick out.
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Good stuff, can't imagine being in the crowd for that mouthpiece incident.
I've heard Bowe had many gym wars, but I wouldn't doubt him being lazy
in sparring. Corey Sanders Ive heard as well spar a list of whos who for many
years. Don't know anything about Floyd Patterson's brother who you said
dropped Liston very cool stuff. Can anyone verify the stories I've heard of Jimmy
Young being brought in to spar with Tyson and handling Tyson and teaching him in
the process. I don't doubt the claim just interested.
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I heard Friday ahunya knocked Tyson out in sparring, around the time of the Williams fight
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James Toney sparred Vitali Klitshko and played with him , according to Pepper Roach
I have no doubt if Toney could have got near Vitali he would have played with him. It's the getting near him that's the hard part. But Toney had the tools.
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hya t. Ah Stillman's Gym where I spent half of my youth for years
watching the greatest fighters of a golden age train. Every Saturday and
some weekdays, I would attend for 25cents mingling with the fighters, trainers, oldtime fighters and most likely mob figures. It was wonderful
seeing fighters sparring at the gym and a short time later watching them perform at the many fight clubs in NY including the old MSG on Friday
nights. So many memories flash through my mind that I don't know where to start, but one sparring incident I can never forget. There was a terrific FW prospect from New Jersey named Freddie Russo, who while sparring
a few feet from us, SWALLOWED his mouthpiece and fell to the floor
clutching his throat. He was turning bluish when a few trainers jumped
in the ring and frantically tried to pry the mouthpiece from his throat
which thank God they succeeded...We the spectators were nervous
wrecks watching this near tragedy, but Russo survived to the relief of
everyone. This one event has always remained in my mind...
Thanks Burt! I look forward to all you saw in those bygone days!
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It seems that i've read at least a dozen wildly differing versions of this story. Other versions have Dempsey KO'ing Galento with a left hook.

File under: Fiction.
Amongst all these various sparring stories (which are notorious for their sketchiness and high bullshit quotient to begin with) only the Dempsey account causes you to comment on it skeptically?

Yet you don't have any agenda or bias against him particularly ?

Yeah sure .
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I red det McCall, Broad & Page flord Tyson in sparing . Page floring him woz/iz on y/t .
Mike White end Oliver McCall wer Frank Bruno's sparing partners, I sapowz emong ozers .
2 sam salty_trunks storis :
Gary Bell bit d shit aut of Holyfield b4 hiz 1st fait wiz Tyson.
(Gary Bell KOd Jameel McCline in e pro fait)
BTW, heving wocht Bell vs Tua, it simd 2 mi laik e BS stopej of d worst kaind:
laik Bell heving bin kat bay hiz (own) kornermen wich rimainded mi (of) Puritty vs Vitali end onazer 1 i 4got .
Bell e4tlesli blokt ol of Tua's left hux. I showd it 2 sam1 end hi askt mi y/if hi (Tua) woz panching him on d arm.
Kirk Johnson yuzd 2 flor Ibeabuchi in sparing wiz rayt hends.

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