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Old 08-03-2014, 06:07 PM   #1
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Degale & Froch - Unranked - IBF

4. Groves
16. Callum Smith
17. Eubank Jnr
19. Paul Smith
24. Rocky Fielding
35. Kerry Hope

You have to feel sorry for Degale. Presumably P Smith will drop out soon because of the WBO

C Smith higher than Rocky fielding

Eubank in a 168lb list? What has he done to deserve the ranking

Kerry Hope in? No Buglioni
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Old 08-03-2014, 06:32 PM   #2
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Honestly incredible how Paul Smith has got a title shot.
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Old 08-03-2014, 06:40 PM   #3
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Callum smith has one of those WBC belts you get in a Christmas ******* and has defended it a couple of times, hence that ranking. Rocky should have a much better ranking than Callum in the WBA tho
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Old 08-04-2014, 09:01 AM   #4
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Honestly incredible how Paul Smith has got a title shot.
Really? It's just hate that gives people that opinion. If you have that opinion, then surely you agree that Lomachenko shouldn't have got a shot then?
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Old 08-04-2014, 10:44 AM   #5
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Really? It's just hate that gives people that opinion. If you have that opinion, then surely you agree that Lomachenko shouldn't have got a shot then?
Let's have a look at who Paul Smith has beaten since his last loss in a British and Commonwealth fight.

Tommy Tolan 4-12 record
Tony Dodson 29-7 record
Jamie Ambler 10-52 record
David Sarabia is 7-3 record

His best win is Tony Dodson, a Brit level operator at best, please make a case for Paul Smith deserving a world title fight on the back of this ?

Lomachenko has nothing to do with this this is Paul Smith so stop trying to deflect and make your case.
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Old 08-04-2014, 10:55 AM   #6
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Let's have a look at who Paul Smith has beaten since his last loss in a British and Commonwealth fight.

Tommy Tolan 4-12 record
Tony Dodson 29-7 record
Jamie Ambler 10-52 record
David Sarabia is 7-3 record

His best win is Tony Dodson, a Brit level operator at best, please make a case for Paul Smith deserving a world title fight on the back of this ?

Lomachenko has nothing to do with this this is Paul Smith so stop trying to deflect and make your case.
I don't think he's necessarily saying that Smith deserves the shot. Lomachenko has everything to do with it, as boxing is so broken that politics and money dictate who gets the best fights, not who is most deserving.
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Old 08-04-2014, 12:25 PM   #7
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Let's have a look at who Paul Smith has beaten since his last loss in a British and Commonwealth fight.

Tommy Tolan 4-12 record
Tony Dodson 29-7 record
Jamie Ambler 10-52 record
David Sarabia is 7-3 record

His best win is Tony Dodson, a Brit level operator at best, please make a case for Paul Smith deserving a world title fight on the back of this ?

Lomachenko has nothing to do with this this is Paul Smith so stop trying to deflect and make your case.
Jesus, i'm saying that saying if people have an opinion that Paul Smith doesn't deserve a shot, that Lomachenko should be the victim of the same critcism. He got that shot based on reputation and potential not through having an established professional career.

There's been much worse world title challengers. It's a good fight. Did Ward deserve a shot against Hall?
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Old 08-04-2014, 12:45 PM   #8
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Paul Smith dont deserve a world title shot at all, even his win over Tony Dodson was againts a shot to bits Dodson
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Old 08-04-2014, 12:48 PM   #9
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Really? It's just hate that gives people that opinion. If you have that opinion, then surely you agree that Lomachenko shouldn't have got a shot then?
Lomachenko earned his ranking by beating the WBO number 7 in his first fight
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Old 08-04-2014, 12:54 PM   #10
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[quote=Joejr;16437230]Lomachenko earned his ranking by beating the WBO number 7 in his first fight[/

I couldn't tell you what his ranking was to be honest, but what did Lomachenko do to merit what was effectively an eliminator in his first fight?

You cannot tell me that he was/is more deserving than Paul Smith (regardless of what anyone's opinion is on Smith's level of opposition)
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Old 08-04-2014, 01:11 PM   #11
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Lomachenko earned his ranking by beating the WBO number 7 in his first fight[/

I couldn't tell you what his ranking was to be honest, but what did Lomachenko do to merit what was effectively an eliminator in his first fight?

You cannot tell me that he was/is more deserving than Paul Smith (regardless of what anyone's opinion is on Smith's level of opposition)
it wasnt an eliminator it was him fighting the wbo number 7 who had just came off a career best win over rey Bautista(former world title challenger). By beating him he got the ranking and was therefore able to fight for the title if the fight could be made. Any promotor could have gotten there fighter a fight like this on there debut if they taught they were able for it, there was nothing special about it

Lomachenko earned his ranking of number 7, paul smith is ranked 19th and all he has done is beat up bad journeymen and dodson and he gets a world title shot its ridiculous

if Smith had beaten the current wb0 number 7 Sergey Khomitsky first before getting this title shot id have no problem with it
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Old 08-05-2014, 06:50 AM   #12
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it wasnt an eliminator it was him fighting the wbo number 7 who had just came off a career best win over rey Bautista(former world title challenger). By beating him he got the ranking and was therefore able to fight for the title if the fight could be made. Any promotor could have gotten there fighter a fight like this on there debut if they taught they were able for it, there was nothing special about it

Lomachenko earned his ranking of number 7, paul smith is ranked 19th and all he has done is beat up bad journeymen and dodson and he gets a world title shot its ridiculous

if Smith had beaten the current wb0 number 7 Sergey Khomitsky first before getting this title shot id have no problem with it
I didn't call it an actual eliminator, i said effectively. I think that there was plenty special about Lomachenko doing what he did but the original argument was about merit, and someone deserving the shot. I am merely saying if people have a problem with Smith getting the shot, then the same logic should apply to Lomachenko getting his, or at the very least the route to his shot.
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Old 08-05-2014, 07:17 AM   #13
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Really? It's just hate that gives people that opinion. If you have that opinion, then surely you agree that Lomachenko shouldn't have got a shot then?
Is that you Paul?
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Old 08-05-2014, 08:03 AM   #14
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Is that you Paul?
Not, but i'm biggest fan. I waited out in the blistering cold for him for 4 hours outside the echo, but he just said no. That was pretty ****ty man, coz he's like my ****ing idol. I wanna be just like him man, i like him a lot more than my toyota aygo.
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I didn't call it an actual eliminator, i said effectively. I think that there was plenty special about Lomachenko doing what he did but the original argument was about merit, and someone deserving the shot. I am merely saying if people have a problem with Smith getting the shot, then the same logic should apply to Lomachenko getting his, or at the very least the route to his shot.
Nah this Definetly is Paul smith lmfao

The only thing special was he had the ***** to fight the number 7 in his first fight and ten go straight for a title shot, anyone could have got these fight if try belived in there enough

On the other hand Paul smith get beat up by lads not even in the top ten and fight guy probebly not ranked in the top 500 and then feels he deserves a shot
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