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Old 08-05-2014, 07:44 AM   #16
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Typical English biased, not one of your guys could touch him your best Kevin got wasted in 4 rounds but he's not world class **** off you ****
If Ricky were mentally weakened he had an excuse broken jaw!
Kell's only excuse is he be found out not to be world level FACT
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Old 08-05-2014, 07:48 AM   #17
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No mention of ricky on the manchester bill on sept 13th as originally mentioned
Leeds or London it is then.
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Old 08-05-2014, 08:08 AM   #18
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The rumours of him killing himself to make lightweight imo only seem to be of late , there was never an issue in him making weight in Billys place at Lightweight , personally id like to see Ricky and Billy regroup as i dont think Sims is the answer atall tbh



Ricky and Billy were a very good fit and that showed with ricky's great run, i have heard rumours (I personally try not to listen much to rumours) that at the end Ricky was not listening to Billy the way a boxer should listen to his coach and that maybe Ricky was being a bit big headed in the gym. I wasn't there personally so I am only writing what i have heard. Only Billy could confirm if that was the case or not.

If that is the case would Billy really want to regroup with Ricky? Would Ricky manage to go back and listen again?

Maybe Billy will come and tell us if he would consider retraining Ricky?
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Old 08-05-2014, 08:09 AM   #19
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Typical English biased, not one of your guys could touch him your best Kevin got wasted in 4 rounds but he's not world class **** off you ****
If Ricky were mentally weakened he had an excuse broken jaw!
Kell's only excuse is he be found out not to be world level FACT
This has nothing to do with England v Scotland, not sure why your turning it into that.

Who said Mitchell is world class ??

And as for facts Burns was totally outclassed by Crawford and he didn't even get out of 2nd gear
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Old 08-05-2014, 08:32 AM   #20
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This has nothing to do with England v Scotland, not sure why your turning it into that.

Who said Mitchell is world class ??

And as for facts Burns was totally outclassed by Crawford and he didn't even get out of 2nd gear
westy you find Crawford will become one of the worlds finest fighters so there no shame in lossing to him

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Old 08-05-2014, 08:33 AM   #21
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Ricky and Billy were a very good fit and that showed with ricky's great run, i have heard rumours (I personally try not to listen much to rumours) that at the end Ricky was not listening to Billy the way a boxer should listen to his coach and that maybe Ricky was being a bit big headed in the gym. I wasn't there personally so I am only writing what i have heard. Only Billy could confirm if that was the case or not.

If that is the case would Billy really want to regroup with Ricky? Would Ricky manage to go back and listen again?

Maybe Billy will come and tell us if he would consider retraining Ricky?
How's things David?
Well the answer to your question no I wouldn't train Ricky again if asked
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Old 08-05-2014, 09:18 AM   #22
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Crawford loss wont harm Ricky any, the guy just beat Gamboa. I do think Ricky fought a **** fight that night and in his prime would have beaten him.

Judging by Rickys last fight he looks awful, would it be so bad for him to take a big domestic fight? Its all well and good saying he smashed up Kevin Mitchell but that was a good few fights ago and a lot has changed since.

Surely if Ricky were to fight Coyle or Matthews it would give us an idea as to where he is at. There is no shame in it, the guy did have a broken jaw and it does seem to be an issue.

I like Ricky and want to see him do well.
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Old 08-05-2014, 09:20 AM   #23
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How's things David?
Well the answer to your question no I wouldn't train Ricky again if asked
Don't blame you
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Old 08-05-2014, 09:22 AM   #24
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He should stay at 135 & have a domestic fight next.
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westy you find Crawford will become one of the worlds finest fighters so there no shame in lossing to him
Your probably right, Crawford is a class act and will probably go on to great things. But he beat Ricky far too easily !!!!
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Old 08-05-2014, 09:31 AM   #26
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Typical English biased, not one of your guys could touch him your best Kevin got wasted in 4 rounds but he's not world class **** off you ****
If Ricky were mentally weakened he had an excuse broken jaw!
Kell's only excuse is he be found out not to be world level FACT
or you sure its fact or just your opinion

I never thought Mitchell or Murray were world class

if butts and broken jaws in the eighth

comment on brook without him even fighting for world honors is poor form billy poor form , I will bring this fact back soon enough
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Old 08-05-2014, 09:45 AM   #27
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or you sure its fact or just your opinion

I never thought Mitchell or Murray were world class

if butts and broken jaws in the eighth

comment on brook without him even fighting for world honors is poor form billy poor form , I will bring this fact back soon enough
Mate of co**** I hope kell wins but it's only my opinion that there's weaknesses that will be exposed at world level
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Old 08-05-2014, 09:48 AM   #28
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Crawford loss wont harm Ricky any, the guy just beat Gamboa. I do think Ricky fought a **** fight that night and in his prime would have beaten him.

Judging by Rickys last fight he looks awful, would it be so bad for him to take a big domestic fight? Its all well and good saying he smashed up Kevin Mitchell but that was a good few fights ago and a lot has changed since.

Surely if Ricky were to fight Coyle or Matthews it would give us an idea as to where he is at. There is no shame in it, the guy did have a broken jaw and it does seem to be an issue.

I like Ricky and want to see him do well.
Both Derry and Tommy have sparred Ricky and Ricky's at a totally different level
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Old 08-05-2014, 09:54 AM   #29
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Both Derry and Tommy have sparred Ricky and Ricky's at a totally different level
Obviously Tommy but Derry?

You always seem to hear good things about Derry in sparring.
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Old 08-05-2014, 11:02 AM   #30
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Both Derry and Tommy have sparred Ricky and Ricky's at a totally different level
That was back then when ricky was flying high in confidence Billy , Now the tables have turned a tad and Rickys miles away from the level of confidence and form of then , a more even test at present imo and will show what rickys at in terms of level
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