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Old 03-10-2008, 11:03 AM   #16
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Well Enzo got served a massive dose of humble pie. At the end of the day its different strokes for different folks. If an old timer like Enzo cant recognize that fact then his an old fool. The likelyhood is Ree`s Pryce and Lockett also get exposed badly at sometime throughout the rest of the year and then all of a sudden his award as the best trainer seems quite shallow as the rest of his stable are of no real international worth or recognition.
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Old 03-10-2008, 02:00 PM   #17
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I used to like Bunce. But he has no credibility whatsoever and says whatever it takes to keep his journalism job going. Why on earth would you think its ok to disrupt a fighters sleep pattern thats just simply stupid. Im pretty sure this was Hayes best camp ever. The hard work really showed.
Jesus, did he really say that, I missed that part.

That's just ridiculous. I work shifts and so know first hand the difference it makes when you change or disrupt your normal set patterns.
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Old 03-10-2008, 02:13 PM   #18
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Jesus, did he really say that, I missed that part.

That's just ridiculous. I work shifts and so know first hand the difference it makes when you change or disrupt your normal set patterns.


Yep. Bunce said the sleep pattern thing the night before or maybe in the build up when he was talking to the women and guy in the studio. Even they thought he was a ****.

A lot of bollocks was taked about in the build up to the fight, just read anything on the BBC website.
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Old 03-10-2008, 02:14 PM   #19
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Maybe ****** was paying them to say that who knows. But pretty much everything they said had some biased slant on it.
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Old 03-10-2008, 08:18 PM   #20
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I don't believe he is better than Buddy. Trainers go through highs and lows in terms of there fighters achieving. But Buddy did miracles for Gatti and steered Tarver and Brewster to championships. He also trained Forrest Timo Hoffman Mads Larsen and Malinaggi. Now you compare those fighters to Enzo`s stable and its not even close.
Tarver had a lot of amateur pedigree, top world level stuff.

Ree's has some domestic titles.

Enzo take average goods and get very good results and one great talent and made him the best fighter the world has ever seen.

Deserving winner. He may not be the best, but he is the best anyone knows about.
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Old 03-10-2008, 08:39 PM   #21
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Enzo Calzaghe's a poor trainer.
Calzaghe's overrated and not even the best in Britain.
Hatton's a bum and loses ten times out ten to Witter.
Castillo was too old when he fought Hatton, but Witter should fight Hatton despite being older now than Castillo was then
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You know nothing Scurla, just because you've posted on here for 20 years, it doesn't make you knowledgable.
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Old 03-11-2008, 04:29 AM   #22
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At the time yes. Calzaghe, Rees and Enzo were undefeated world champs. He was also building young undefeat prospects and solid guys like Pryce. However the end may be near for some of his other guys i.e. Rees. He is still a good coach though.

The work he did with Enzo was good, just not enough.

Enzo C's main flaw is he is delusional i.e. Macca is faster than HAye, Calzaghe is invincible etc However his flaw can sometimes be a plus because it builds up an invincible mindset.
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Old 03-11-2008, 05:19 AM   #23
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Enzo Calzaghe's a poor trainer.
Calzaghe's overrated and not even the best in Britain.
Hatton's a bum and loses ten times out ten to Witter.
Castillo was too old when he fought Hatton, but Witter should fight Hatton despite being older now than Castillo was then
etc

You know nothing Scurla, just because you've posted on here for 20 years, it doesn't make you knowledgable.
After 600 odd posts you`d think you would have learnt by now to spin the wheel and type something worthwhile. ****ing clown.
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Old 03-11-2008, 02:50 PM   #24
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A trainer can only take you so far, ultimately its the quality of the fighter that counts when the bell rings. Another factor is whether a fighter will actually listen to what he's being told between rounds or will he just go back into autopilot mode which is what a lot of guys do.
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