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Old 07-11-2007, 06:27 PM   #1
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ok, up to now i've been pretty neutral in respect to amir khan. i think he's skillful and will enjoy watching him fight win or lose, and i am still in the wait-and-see camp when it comes to the glass chin debate.

but after hearing him on radio 5 earlier, i think his personality has reached new lows.

firstly, as a british asian myself, i find his lack of eloquency embarrasing. he just can't give a good interview because his mouth works faster than his brain, and coupled with a limited vocabulary, this only allows him to talk in boxing cliches or regurgitate what other people have told him. hatton, joe, haye, limond....even carl froch gives a better interview than this guy.

it sounds like he's trying to hype himself up a la prince naz, but the difference is naz could be genuinely witty, which is an attribute khan is severely lacking. in short, although he may have a good boxing career, i don't think he'll ever be half the personality of a bruno, hatton or even hamed.

i don't think there is anything wrong with being confident about a fight or even looking beyond your opponent. part of me hopes he goes on and does great things, but another part of me wants him to learn humility....whether this be by getting beaten in the ring, or just someone he respects sitting him down and explaining to him that he sounds like a complete fool.
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Old 07-11-2007, 06:43 PM   #2
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ok, up to now i've been pretty neutral in respect to amir khan. i think he's skillful and will enjoy watching him fight win or lose, and i am still in the wait-and-see camp when it comes to the glass chin debate.

but after hearing him on radio 5 earlier, i think his personality has reached new lows.

firstly, as a british asian myself, i find his lack of eloquency embarrasing. he just can't give a good interview because his mouth works faster than his brain, and coupled with a limited vocabulary, this only allows him to talk in boxing cliches or regurgitate what other people have told him. hatton, joe, haye, limond....even carl froch gives a better interview than this guy.

it sounds like he's trying to hype himself up a la prince naz, but the difference is naz could be genuinely witty, which is an attribute khan is severely lacking. in short, although he may have a good boxing career, i don't think he'll ever be half the personality of a bruno, hatton or even hamed.

i don't think there is anything wrong with being confident about a fight or even looking beyond your opponent. part of me hopes he goes on and does great things, but another part of me wants him to learn humility....whether this be by getting beaten in the ring, or just someone he respects sitting him down and explaining to him that he sounds like a complete fool.
agree with ya all the way buddy, as a british asian myself its sometimes embarassing to hear him talk, the boy lacks any kind of charisma and i think its fair to say he isnt much of an articulate speaker, his vocabulary being limited to nonesense jargan such as ''ya know what i mean'' and ''thanks man'' i know he's from a working class family from bolton but for god sakes Mr.Khan try going the distance with the oxford dictionary.
i personally belive he doesnt mean to say some of the crap coming out of his mouth, his poor use of speech makes him sound like a ****, i respect khan as a boxer but he'll never develop the personality naz and co had
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Old 07-11-2007, 06:52 PM   #3
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To be fair none of that makes him a bad guy. He is a boxer but modern boxing being what it is he is having to act the showman. By making a guy who is not one of lifes talkers play this game it is giving him an unfair image. With time he will relax and will then come accross better.

Sorry guys I will catch the next one.
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Old 07-11-2007, 06:53 PM   #4
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ok, up to now i've been pretty neutral in respect to amir khan. i think he's skillful and will enjoy watching him fight win or lose, and i am still in the wait-and-see camp when it comes to the glass chin debate.

but after hearing him on radio 5 earlier, i think his personality has reached new lows.

firstly, as a british asian myself, i find his lack of eloquency embarrasing. he just can't give a good interview because his mouth works faster than his brain, and coupled with a limited vocabulary, this only allows him to talk in boxing cliches or regurgitate what other people have told him. hatton, joe, haye, limond....even carl froch gives a better interview than this guy.

it sounds like he's trying to hype himself up a la prince naz, but the difference is naz could be genuinely witty, which is an attribute khan is severely lacking. in short, although he may have a good boxing career, i don't think he'll ever be half the personality of a bruno, hatton or even hamed.

i don't think there is anything wrong with being confident about a fight or even looking beyond your opponent. part of me hopes he goes on and does great things, but another part of me wants him to learn humility....whether this be by getting beaten in the ring, or just someone he respects sitting him down and explaining to him that he sounds like a complete fool.
I never heard the interview Rooq my man, but I wouldnt be too harsh on the lad. Hes young, great things are expected of him so of course hes going to give it the big talk, even if you can tell its forced, & doesnt come naturally. I think deep down hes a down to earth young lad, I seen him on the Paul O'Grady show & he was articulate, came across as a nice fella, he had the audience laughing with him & handled himself well.

His fighting talk is just a bit of bluster to sell himself, but I wouldnt read too deeply into it at this stage. Hes still 'learning the game' inside & out of the ring, & its easy to tell that the Hamedesque style boasts are manufactured, & it isnt his 'bag' so dont be too judgemental yet, thats what I say.

I could be wrong right enough, but its all about opinions
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Old 07-11-2007, 08:04 PM   #5
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sounds like a typical 19 year old , no command of the queens english....

essentially i dont give a ****....i am interested in his boxing...lets his gloves do the talking....the way i see it...if beckham can carry out a full sentence these days, ANYONE can.

Remember, how cringreworthy he used to be....and still is to some
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Old 07-11-2007, 08:39 PM   #6
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'ya know what i mean'' and ''thanks man''

nothing wrong with that.. he speaking like a mate...
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'ya know what i mean'' and ''thanks man''

nothing wrong with that.. he speaking like a mate...
Nothing wrong with that when he's speaking to a mate , but even footballers are able to give better interviews than him . Footballers don't have to have personalities that attract crowds but boxers do , whether he wants to go down the Carl Froch 'loudmouth' or Hatton 'just one of the lads' routines he's going to have to improve his public speaking .

Khan stumbles threw his words a lot and it is apparent he has a problem expressing what is in his head , it is Frank ******'s job as his promoter to try and help him fix that .
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ok, up to now i've been pretty neutral in respect to amir khan. i think he's skillful and will enjoy watching him fight win or lose, and i am still in the wait-and-see camp when it comes to the glass chin debate.

but after hearing him on radio 5 earlier, i think his personality has reached new lows.

firstly, as a british asian myself, i find his lack of eloquency embarrasing. he just can't give a good interview because his mouth works faster than his brain, and coupled with a limited vocabulary, this only allows him to talk in boxing cliches or regurgitate what other people have told him. hatton, joe, haye, limond....even carl froch gives a better interview than this guy.

it sounds like he's trying to hype himself up a la prince naz, but the difference is naz could be genuinely witty, which is an attribute khan is severely lacking. in short, although he may have a good boxing career, i don't think he'll ever be half the personality of a bruno, hatton or even hamed.

I don't think there is anything wrong with being confident about a fight or even looking beyond your opponent. part of me hopes he goes on and does great things, but another part of me wants him to learn humility....whether this be by getting beaten in the ring, or just someone he respects sitting him down and explaining to him that he sounds like a complete fool.
So his lack of eloquency is a good enough reason for you to be emmbarassed as a fellow Asian??? Perhaps just being an Asian emmbarasses you.

Sure I enjoy a good speaker but Khan has an entertaining style which more than makes up for it. Besides hes going to improve on it I'm sure with time.
And how is he not humble? Hes shown respect for all his opponents including his next one. If Limmond himself has said that Khan has treated him with a lot of respect, why do you have an issue with Khans humility? Yeh the boy believes in his ability, and has every reason to given what he accomplished as 17 yr old.

He's used his high profile in positive ways, including numerous charities and support for his community . Other than jealousy I really dont get the unjust criticism especially coming from an Asian. The pressure on the kid has been immenese since he was thrust into the spotlight 3 years ago and hes coped with it rather well.
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So his lack of eloquency is a good enough reason for you to be emmbarassed as a fellow Asian??? Perhaps just being an Asian emmbarasses you.

Sure I enjoy a good speaker but Khan has an entertaining style which more than makes up for it. Besides hes going to improve on it I'm sure with time.
And how is he not humble? Hes shown respect for all his opponents including his next one. If Limmond himself has said that Khan has treated him with a lot of respect, why do you have an issue with Khans humility? Yeh the boy believes in his ability, and has every reason to given what he accomplished as 17 yr old.

He's used his high profile in positive ways, including numerous charities and support for his community . Other than jealousy I really dont get the unjust criticism especially coming from an Asian. The pressure on the kid has been immenese since he was thrust into the spotlight 3 years ago and hes coped with it rather well.
woooah..hold your horses there mate. my post is a comment on the direction his personality is going based on last nights radio 5 interview. i've heard him in interviews before and he's never come across like this. did you hear it?

to me it sounded like he wasn't being himself and trying too hard to sound ****y / hype and he just sounded like an idiot reeling off a list of boxing cliches. i much prefered him in earlier interviews when he was humble and talked about learning the game and improving fight-by-fight. buncey (i think it was him?) said something similiar after the interview was aired

i'm not criticising what he's achieved or his boxing skills or what he does for the community. i'm just criticising how he now appears to be portraying himself.

hey...i'm not even on the hate train yet. i'm just in the ticket office, reading tourist pamphlets and considering my options. maybe this interview was a one-off. maybe ******, or someone else will give him a bit of direction now so he comes across better in interviews. i do hope so because as i said, i want him to do well and achieve great things. but i don't want to hear him sounding like an ass.
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sounds like a typical 19 year old , no command of the queens english....

essentially i dont give a ****....i am interested in his boxing...lets his gloves do the talking....the way i see it...if beckham can carry out a full sentence these days, ANYONE can.

Remember, how cringreworthy he used to be....and still is to some
thats true. i think part of the problem is just that he hasn't matured as an adult yet. he'll probably be fine at giving interviews in 2 or 3 years.
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Old 07-12-2007, 06:28 AM   #11
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you mature into this stuff. Remeber giggs could hardley get a word out when he was a kid, rooney was embarrassing... not everyone has Naz's wit and public speaking confidence.

Of all the young british superstars, only Hamilton gives a good interview....and he has been trained by McLaren since he was 14, even he made a PR mistake calling the other drives down the grid monkeys.

Andy Murray, wayne Rooney, and now Khan have all been embarrassed in the paper by what they have said in interviews.

On Radio Five they put the Khan interview in context, in that it sounded like a post fight interview as he gave it straight after doing an hour public workout in front hundreds and hundreds of screaming fans (girls?), so the adrenaline was really pumping, and he was speaking very quickly......but his vocabulary is shocking.

I wouldnt expect him to be the same way on michael parkinson
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Frankly, I don't care how well-schooled Khan is, but I am disappointed whenever he comes across as arrogant. It just does not suit him. For him, it's a PR mistake as well as just being silly, in general.
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First of all, it's not the "Khan hate" train, it's simply "the anti-Khan train".

As the commanding De Facto leader and instigator of this fine express, I welcome anyone who wants to jump aboard this classy ride whenever they like, doesn't matter if you're an original or a neutral/former supporter, so long as you realise the fraudulency of this joke.

The anti-Khan train is completely Political, it is not racist, bigoted or childishly biased. The anti-Khan train does however have a cemented place for CHIN CHECKING and Khan's grade A china chin is a big factor in the anti-Khan train's agenda preaching.

So you are welcome Rooq, he is indeed an embarassment and while you are citing some basic surface issue's with Amir Khan and the fraud pile backing him, you have not even begun to dive deep into the real problems of this insanity trip.

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woooah..hold your horses there mate. my post is a comment on the direction his personality is going based on last nights radio 5 interview. i've heard him in interviews before and he's never come across like this. did you hear it?

to me it sounded like he wasn't being himself and trying too hard to sound ****y / hype and he just sounded like an idiot reeling off a list of boxing cliches. i much prefered him in earlier interviews when he was humble and talked about learning the game and improving fight-by-fight. buncey (i think it was him?) said something similiar after the interview was aired

i'm not criticising what he's achieved or his boxing skills or what he does for the community. i'm just criticising how he now appears to be portraying himself.

hey...i'm not even on the hate train yet. i'm just in the ticket office, reading tourist pamphlets and considering my options. maybe this interview was a one-off. maybe ******, or someone else will give him a bit of direction now so he comes across better in interviews. i do hope so because as i said, i want him to do well and achieve great things. but i don't want to hear him sounding like an ass.
Frankly I'd be tired of his interviews if all I heard so far was "I'm learning my trade..." Your point is taken. Ok so he sounded like a typical 19-20 yr old would and agreed hes not a natural speaker. But, actions speak louder than words, his skills in the ring and how he conducts himself will speak for itself.
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Frankly I'd be tired of his interviews if all I heard so far was "I'm learning my trade..." Your point is taken. Ok so he sounded like a typical 19-20 yr old would and agreed hes not a natural speaker. But, actions speak louder than words, his skills in the ring and how he conducts himself will speak for itself.
You need to get realistic and grow up.
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