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Old 03-17-2008, 11:31 AM   #31
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This would have been even better had it happened in 2002.

Obviously Hopkins felt that a bout against a blown up Jnr Middle Carl Daniels was of far more importance.
Hopkins wouldn't of had a chance back In 02 anyway.

Just now he will lose even harder to Joe.
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Old 03-17-2008, 11:39 AM   #32
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Totally agree.But Joe didnt do the same. He held the WBO for far too long. All the mooted bouts with the names then that were available from 60 - 75 never happened. Joe and his father and ****** blaimed everyone else and now that his just built on his win over Lacy with a win over the Kessler his the next big thing? Not in my book.
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Old 03-17-2008, 11:41 AM   #33
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What next big thing? Regardless of Lacy and Kessler he's clearly a brilliant fighter.
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Old 03-17-2008, 11:49 AM   #34
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Theres a fair few poor defences on Calzaghes record but it also includes Woohhall, Brewer, Mitchell, Reid, Lacy, Kessler, Sheika, Eubank. Pretty decent opposition IMHO.
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Old 03-17-2008, 11:51 AM   #35
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but he's still like watching paint dry.
you could quite easily say that about mayweather b4 the hatton fight
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Old 03-17-2008, 11:56 AM   #36
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Theres a fair few poor defences on Calzaghes record but it also includes Woohhall, Brewer, Mitchell, Reid, Lacy, Kessler, Sheika, Eubank. Pretty decent opposition IMHO.
Very decent opposition. Bar Eubanks they are all B and C level and all the more reason why he should have been stepping it up ages ago.Joe was supposed to be at 75 over 3 years ago. Remember his claims that he couldnt make the weight?
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Old 03-17-2008, 12:24 PM   #37
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Very decent opposition. Bar Eubanks they are all B and C level and all the more reason why he should have been stepping it up ages ago.Joe was supposed to be at 75 over 3 years ago. Remember his claims that he couldnt make the weight?
I don't know how many letters you use to rank fighters but it must be a fair few if Woodhall, Brewer, Mitchel and Reid are B and C level, they were all world class fighters (champions in some cases). Are we saying its OK for Hopkins to stay at 160 but not for Calzaghe to stay at 168?

I also remember David Hayes claims he can't make cruiser...
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Old 03-17-2008, 12:32 PM   #38
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I don't know how many letters you use to rank fighters but it must be a fair few if Woodhall, Brewer, Mitchel and Reid are B and C level, they were all world class fighters (champions in some cases). Are we saying its OK for Hopkins to stay at 160 but not for Calzaghe to stay at 168?

I also remember David Hayes claims he can't make cruiser...
Davids certainly tight at the weight. Theres no questioning that. Calzaghe has been at 68 for his ENTIRE CAREER.That doesnt sound like a man that has trouble making weight. Now like i said i had no problem with Joe staying at 68. But the bottom line is when it mattered most the bouts never happened. 68 was a wasteland.And yet he would face Ottke.He had tons of great matchups around him and always it was someone elses fault as to why they never happened. There was a time when he was mooted to face Joppy! Even that fell through.
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What matchups would you have liked to see at 168?
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Pre championship Calzaghe featured in some of the most 'minging' fights you could wish to see.... He found it so easy he used to showboat and make a right **** of himself. Then they pitch him in with Eubank and its like watching a completely different fighter. Watch his early performances and you'll see a braggart who show boats and can't punch properly. Watch him Vs Lacy and Kessler and you've got a brilliant fighter... Amazing difference.
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What matchups would you have liked to see?
Calzaghe Vs Hopkins, Jones Jnr, Michealzewski, Tarver, Johnson all could have been made with compromise.

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Pre championship Calzaghe featured in some of the most 'minging' fights you could wish to see.... He found it so easy he used to showboat and make a right **** of himself. Then they pitch him in with Eubank and its like watching a completely different fighter. Watch his early performances and you'll see a braggart who show boats and can't punch properly. Watch him Vs Lacy and Kessler and you've got a brilliant fighter... Amazing difference.
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Old 03-17-2008, 12:49 PM   #43
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Calzaghe Vs Hopkins, Jones Jnr, Michealzewski, Tarver, Johnson all could have been made with compromise.
You snuck in before I put 'at 168' (which nixes DM, Tarver, Johnson and maybe RJJ) on the end.....
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You snuck in before I out 'at 168' (which nixes DM, Tarver, Johnson and maybe RJJ) on the end.....
I'm always quick....
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Calzaghe Vs Hopkins, Jones Jnr, Michealzewski, Tarver, Johnson all could have been made with compromise.
**** it i would have taken Thomas Tate, Joppy, Glen Johnson, Tito, or Harry Simon. 4 of those five he had semi-confirmed bouts that fell through for one reason or another. ALL would have given him name and star recognition abroad.
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