Dempsey Above Ali, Pound For Pound? - Page 2

McGrain · 07-14-2007, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramon Rojo

Ali is better than Dempsey in every field, that includes power.

What an astonishing claim? Do you really think so? Why do you think that?

groove · 07-14-2007, 10:02 AM

Dempsey is extremely powerful. He also has a better arsenal of punches than Ali. Dempsey pound for pound is one of the greatest punchers ever.

janitor · 07-14-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Ramon Rojo

Ali is better than Dempsey in every field, that includes power.

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janitor · 07-14-2007, 10:47 AM

I think Dempsey has it pound for pound by virtue of being smaller.

If they met at their prime weights of 210 and 190 lbs respectively it is not a given by any means that Ali would win.

Duodenum · 07-14-2007, 11:48 AM

Frazier basically had one arm, one eye, and stumpy legs he stomped on while charging forward.

Dempsey was a two-eyed, two-fisted panther, who attacked the nuts relentlessly. Bouncing lightly on the balls of his feet, with knees bent, he'd dart in while scrunched down to a height of about four feet, then, lurching up after ducking a jab, he'd strike out like a cobra. As fast as Ali was, even a bloody Cooper was able to make him miss. Sir 'Enery had nothing like the speed, power, mobility, chin, or resistance to cuts which Dempsey possessed. Head to head, peak to peak, Dempsey would have been no picnic for Muhammad, who would have found Dempsey too low to the ground and sneaky to wear down by pulling on his neck. As dirty a fighter as Ali was, does anybody really think he could hold a candle to Dempsey in that department? This is a guy who as a referee awarded a 20 round decision to Uzcudun over Baer on account of Paulino's superior fouling! (If Dempsey had been the referee and judge for Ali/Wepner, Chuck might have won the darned thing.)

Muchmoore · 07-14-2007, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PowerPuncher

Hes called Mike Tyson

Ted Stickles · 07-14-2007, 05:52 PM

Dempsey would have given Ali trouble because of the crouch style which Ali has often admitted was his hardest style to fight.I do think the speed of Ali would have been too much because if you think about it Tunney was a mover like Ali and Dempsey had tons of trouble with him and Ali was way better than Tunney

07-14-2007, 10:02 AM	#17
groove Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,024 vCash: 1000	Re: Dempsey Above Ali, Pound For Pound? Dempsey is extremely powerful. He also has a better arsenal of punches than Ali. Dempsey pound for pound is one of the greatest punchers ever.
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07-14-2007, 10:47 AM	#19
janitor P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 19,020 vCash: 1000	Re: Dempsey Above Ali, Pound For Pound? I think Dempsey has it pound for pound by virtue of being smaller. If they met at their prime weights of 210 and 190 lbs respectively it is not a given by any means that Ali would win. Last edited by janitor; 07-14-2007 at 11:52 AM.
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07-14-2007, 11:48 AM	#20
Duodenum Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 6,700 vCash: 1000	Re: Dempsey Above Ali, Pound For Pound? Frazier basically had one arm, one eye, and stumpy legs he stomped on while charging forward. Dempsey was a two-eyed, two-fisted panther, who attacked the nuts relentlessly. Bouncing lightly on the balls of his feet, with knees bent, he'd dart in while scrunched down to a height of about four feet, then, lurching up after ducking a jab, he'd strike out like a cobra. As fast as Ali was, even a bloody Cooper was able to make him miss. Sir 'Enery had nothing like the speed, power, mobility, chin, or resistance to cuts which Dempsey possessed. Head to head, peak to peak, Dempsey would have been no picnic for Muhammad, who would have found Dempsey too low to the ground and sneaky to wear down by pulling on his neck. As dirty a fighter as Ali was, does anybody really think he could hold a candle to Dempsey in that department? This is a guy who as a referee awarded a 20 round decision to Uzcudun over Baer on account of Paulino's superior fouling! (If Dempsey had been the referee and judge for Ali/Wepner, Chuck might have won the darned thing.)
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07-14-2007, 05:52 PM	#22
Ted Stickles Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: New Joisey Posts: 2,093 vCash: 1000	Re: Dempsey Above Ali, Pound For Pound? Dempsey would have given Ali trouble because of the crouch style which Ali has often admitted was his hardest style to fight.I do think the speed of Ali would have been too much because if you think about it Tunney was a mover like Ali and Dempsey had tons of trouble with him and Ali was way better than Tunney
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