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Old 07-11-2007, 09:43 PM   #1
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How does this one play out? Both at lightweight. Can Whitaker's defensive mastery overcome the man described as being "all offense"? Let's hear it.
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:29 PM   #2
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I like Armstrongs work rate and K.O. punch in this one.Lou Ambers was also a very good Boxer and Armstrong beat him once and was 'robbed' the second time around out fighting Lou but having 5 rds taken from him on fouls.Henry also had 4 rds taken from him in their first bout but won anyway.Whitaker was left handed and basically had a defencive style, an awkward style of backing up,using right jabs and left hooks so he would give Henry problems early on.But once Henry gets the range he'll swarm Whitaker with a 2 handed assault with Whitaker finding it increasing harder to defend himself.I pick Armstrong via late Rd. K.O.Thanks
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Old 07-11-2007, 10:33 PM   #3
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I can't see Armstrong winning. Yes, he has an astronomical punch output, and yes, he had some pop, but Whitaker was too smart, too mobile, and too strong not to earn some respect for himself at lightweight. Whitaker W15
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:31 AM   #4
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I think Armstrong would win, he wouldn't let Pernell create distance and would close him down and keep punching his cardio and was insane as was his punch output. Plus he used everything he could from low blows to elbows and I see this unsettling Whitaker as it wouldn't be a one off but constantly until Armstrong scores the knockout.
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:56 AM   #5
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I think Armstrong would win, he wouldn't let Pernell create distance and would close him down and keep punching his cardio and was insane as was his punch output. Plus he used everything he could from low blows to elbows and I see this unsettling Whitaker as it wouldn't be a one off but constantly until Armstrong scores the knockout.
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Old 07-12-2007, 04:09 PM   #6
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I disagree Sweet Pea.Ramirez and Delahoya ran Pernell down without to much trouble.Nelson was a little old at the time and taylor made for Pernells' style as he moved straight forward, not using angles,and his older legs would'nt carry him quick enough.Henry in his prime would'nt have this problem.He would be able to force the fight to the center of the Ring and towards the ropes and would be able to get past Pernells' jab.Pernell would bloody Armstrongs face as Armstrong cut easily but in the end Henrys' voluminous punching,stamina,and K.O.power would carry the day.Thanks.
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Old 07-12-2007, 04:11 PM   #7
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Whitaker UD15.
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:01 PM   #8
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Whitaker started his career off a little more as a runner, but he did not stop running because of losing his legs. Whitaker became what Benton's strategy for a fighter says you should be. Benton believed that if you ran around, more than needed, you are wasting energy. Benton did not want his fighters wasting energy. Benton also believed a fighter should always stay in punching range of the opponent. Always in position to reach out and touch the other fighter, using circular movement and angles behind a good jab. When Whitaker fought De la Hoya, you can argue he was past his prime, but you can't say Oscar just walked him down. Whitaker was staying within punching distance. If you want an example of running, watch Chavez vs. Camacho. If you want an example of moving just enough, watch Whitaker vs. Chavez.

Whitaker was also a high output fighter at lightweight, in terms of offense. Armstrong may be in a class by himself when it comes to endurance, but it's not like he would out be out throwing Whitaker 2-1. Whitaker was capable of 100+ punches per round himself.

Whitaker may not be a power house, but he could make sweat fly from your face when he landed cleanly. That is enough to win a decision.

I like Whitaker in this fight. He would always keep Armstrong guessing with his jab and movements. Whitaker would also have success on offense, using his solid body attack above average work rate.

Whitaker by decision.
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Old 07-13-2007, 03:08 AM   #9
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The best way to beat a defensive genius is to make him use his defence. Whittaker would be so busy using his great defence that he would not muster enough offence to win the fight.

Whittaker is good enough to beat nayone but he would lose the decision more often than he won it in this one.
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Whitaker started his career off a little more as a runner, but he did not stop running because of losing his legs. Whitaker became what Benton's strategy for a fighter says you should be. Benton believed that if you ran around, more than needed, you are wasting energy. Benton did not want his fighters wasting energy. Benton also believed a fighter should always stay in punching range of the opponent. Always in position to reach out and touch the other fighter, using circular movement and angles behind a good jab. When Whitaker fought De la Hoya, you can argue he was past his prime, but you can't say Oscar just walked him down. Whitaker was staying within punching distance. If you want an example of running, watch Chavez vs. Camacho. If you want an example of moving just enough, watch Whitaker vs. Chavez.

Whitaker was also a high output fighter at lightweight, in terms of offense. Armstrong may be in a class by himself when it comes to endurance, but it's not like he would out be out throwing Whitaker 2-1. Whitaker was capable of 100+ punches per round himself.

Whitaker may not be a power house, but he could make sweat fly from your face when he landed cleanly. That is enough to win a decision.

I like Whitaker in this fight. He would always keep Armstrong guessing with his jab and movements. Whitaker would also have success on offense, using his solid body attack above average work rate.

Whitaker by decision.
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