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Old 07-13-2007, 12:22 AM   #1
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Where do you think Mr. Hearns ranks P4P wise, power?

Is he in your top five all time?

Top three?

Anyone have any stories of his power?

Have any other boxers carried their power 40 some odd pounds up in weight like Hearns did?

Langford?
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Old 07-13-2007, 02:32 AM   #2
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Top 5
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Old 07-13-2007, 02:44 AM   #3
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Outside of top 10.
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Old 07-13-2007, 02:58 AM   #4
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Without thorough research it's an impossible question to answer. But his power was flat out scary and that right hand - if he hit you clean - meant an early night for anyone not called Marvin Hagler.

I could not believe how easily he crushed the mega tough Roberto Duran.
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Hearns' power above 154lb is grossly overrated.
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Old 07-13-2007, 03:05 AM   #6
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Hearns' power above 154lb is grossly overrated.

Tell that to Duran.
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Old 07-13-2007, 03:06 AM   #7
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Or James Schuler.
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Old 07-13-2007, 03:18 AM   #8
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Top 5 with guys like Jackson and Hamed.
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Old 07-13-2007, 03:18 AM   #9
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Thomas Hearns 153 1/4 W-TKO2 Roberto Duran 154

WTF is Shames Schuler to be a measurement stick?
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Old 07-13-2007, 03:28 AM   #10
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At middleweight he had atomic bombs in his hands too. He KO'd in one round a contender who made the distance with Hagler before the "war" with the champ.
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Old 07-13-2007, 03:30 AM   #11
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You claimed his power over 154 is "grossly overrated." (Your words.)

The Schuler fight clearly demonstrates that is isn't.
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Old 07-13-2007, 03:36 AM   #12
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He knocked out an old lightweight fighting 3 divisions above his best weight.
That Hagler couldn't KO Duran is Hagler's problem, he's a "wear 'em down" kind of puncher, not a KO artist by any means. For one reason or another he just paid too much respect to Duran.

Shuler is a nobody. I can find tens of examples when seemingly non-punchers scored a great KO all a sudden. Statistics shows clearly that Hearns wasn't a KO artist above 154lb, his power from middleweight and up is very overrated, he doesn't have nothing significant to back up a claim of a KO artist there.
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Old 07-13-2007, 04:22 AM   #13
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Hearns is technically the most powerful fighter ever pound for pound.

He could not knock out hardly anyone as an amatuer (163 fights; 155 wins; 12 KO's), but as a pro almost straight away Steward found a way to create that magnificent Hearns right hand.
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Old 07-13-2007, 05:06 AM   #14
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Quote:
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He knocked out an old lightweight fighting 3 divisions above his best weight.
That Hagler couldn't KO Duran is Hagler's problem, he's a "wear 'em down" kind of puncher, not a KO artist by any means. For one reason or another he just paid too much respect to Duran.

Shuler is a nobody. I can find tens of examples when seemingly non-punchers scored a great KO all a sudden. Statistics shows clearly that Hearns wasn't a KO artist above 154lb, his power from middleweight and up is very overrated, he doesn't have nothing significant to back up a claim of a KO artist there.
Schuler is a nobody because Hearns made him a nobody. He never fought again after that brutal KO, despite being 22-0 at the time.

I don't think anyone is claiming Hearns to be a KO artist at say, 175, but Hearns always had power, no matter what weight he fought at. He beat down the tough Dennis Andries and knocked him down several times and although Virgil Hill went the distance, Tommy stung him several times with good shots and Hill's face was heavily marked after the bout.

What makes you say it's so overrated? Give us examples of where he struggled, power-wise.
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Old 07-13-2007, 05:28 AM   #15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Senya13
Thomas Hearns 153 1/4 W-TKO2 Roberto Duran 154

WTF is Shames Schuler to be a measurement stick?
Let me guess, your boy Roy belongs above Hearns

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