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View Poll Results: Which Vargas was better?
The Vargas who fought Trinidad was better 76 70.37%
The Vargas who fought De La Hoya was better 18 16.67%
They were equal 14 12.96%
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Old 03-29-2008, 01:17 PM   #46
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The Vargas pre Tito put his punches together in combinations, had tremendous footwork and balance and good reflexes none of those were evident against Oscar he threw no combinations and he looked leaden footed.
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Old 03-29-2008, 01:18 PM   #47
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The Vargas pre Tito put his punches together in combinations, had tremendous footwork and balance and good reflexes none of those were evident against Oscar he threw no combinations and he looked leaden footed.
and he still competed with oscar the entire fight until the 11th

i think vargas in his prime aka pre tito would have beaten oscar by close decision
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:26 PM   #48
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and he still competed with oscar the entire fight until the 11th

i think vargas in his prime aka pre tito would have beaten oscar by close decision
If Oscar was coming up from Welterweight without a tuneup at 154 Vargas probablly beats him.
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:47 PM   #49
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Old 04-01-2008, 01:29 PM   #50
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Wasnt Vargas the favourite against Oscar?
DLH was the betting favorite, and nearly all the people they polled on World Boxing previewing the fight picked DLH to win. Same with the sports writers, as Jim Lampley commented on it during the fight.
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:08 PM   #51
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The Vargas that fought Tito would have knocked out the Vargas that fought DLH. Tito stopped Vargas' career from blossoming in that one fight. The physical and mental beating that Vargas took that night was what made him go from a rising star to a falling star (what an analogy, huh? ). Anyhow, as some have said. If you look at Vargas in the Tito fight, he was fluid and could bend some at the waist. In the DLH fight, he looked robotic and was certainly not the same fighter. He could barely bend at the waist. What I am trying to say is that he could not avoid that many punches in the DLH fight as he showed and did in the Tito fight. His back problems certainly played a role in his loss to DLH, but I firmly believe Tito pretty much ended Vargas' career that night.

Besides, if you follow boxing, and I'm surprised no one has mentioned it yet, DLH swore that he would never give Vargas an opportunity to make money, so he refused to fight him. When Vargas was dropped by Rivera, who is not known for being heavy-handed, DLH was salivating at the mouth and finally gave the o.k. to fight Vargas. He knew that Vargas was not the same, and never would be.
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Old 04-01-2008, 11:27 PM   #52
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Trinidad ruined Vargas
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Old 05-09-2008, 03:39 PM   #53
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no he was a 2-1 dog
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Pumping his jab equally at Vargas' nose and navel, De la Hoya wasted no time showing why bookmakers had installed him as a -270 betting favorite

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Vargas was a 2-1 underdog
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Old 05-09-2008, 04:32 PM   #54
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Vargas had too much balls for his own good, taking on Tito with only 20 profesional fights as a 22year old was not good for his career.

Imo, the Vargas that fought DLH should have been closer to his prime but Tito did take something from vargas that night.

That whole fight came down to 2 punches, the left that KO'd vargas early and the low-blow Tito used right after he himself was knocked down(in the 5th I believe)!
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Old 05-09-2008, 05:09 PM   #55
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The Vargas that fought Tito was better but they were practically the same ****in person.
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Old 05-09-2008, 05:13 PM   #56
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the vargas that lost to trinidad had a better chin and better reflexes. no one would argue that DLH hits harder than Trinidad and Vargas lasted longer against Tito despite getting knocked down repeatedly than he did against DLH
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Vargas had too much balls for his own good, taking on Tito with only 20 profesional fights as a 22year old was not good for his career.

Imo, the Vargas that fought DLH should have been closer to his prime but Tito did take something from vargas that night.

That whole fight came down to 2 punches, the left that KO'd vargas early and the low-blow Tito used right after he himself was knocked down(in the 5th I believe)!
One theory is that Main Events was worried about Vargas's problems outside the ring and wanted to cash out before he self-destructed outside the ring.
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Old 08-08-2008, 03:00 PM   #58
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the vargas that lost to trinidad had a better chin and better reflexes. no one would argue that DLH hits harder than Trinidad and Vargas lasted longer against Tito despite getting knocked down repeatedly than he did against DLH
trinidad hits much much harder than DLH wtf
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Old 08-08-2008, 03:02 PM   #59
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The Fat One That Got His A$$ Whooped By Mayorga Coulda Ate Eithe The Oscar Or Tito One
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Old 08-08-2008, 03:02 PM   #60
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And Tito Hits Harder Than Oscar
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