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Old 04-04-2008, 11:40 AM   #31
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I searched and found nothing. I thought I was making an original flamewar.
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Old 04-04-2008, 11:42 AM   #32
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I think you are selling Holyfield short here.

First of all, he was great at taking a punch. He fought Bowe 3 times, Lewis 2 times, Tyson 2, Moorer 2 times, Mercer, etc etc yet none of them managed to stop him legitimately. Both his stoppages against Toney and Bowe III aren't really chin-related.

This is what kept him in the fight against Lewis (and Bowe+Tyson, for that matter). No normal heavyweight should've remained on his feet after some of the uppercuts he ate against Lewis. Or the punches he took from Tyson in the 5th. Or that barrage in the 10th against Bowe, first fight. His durability was incredible.


Second, he was great at counterpunching (he did it to Tyson all night long), knocked out Douglas with it, drove Foreman crazy with it, etc etc.

His heart is also second to none.
I think Holyfield's skills and boxing ability is way underrated as well. He often abandoned them to engage in close furious combat, but believe me he had them.
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Old 04-04-2008, 11:43 AM   #33
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I searched and found nothing. I thought I was making an original flamewar.
About the only topic left is Dempsey vs the Pope.
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Old 04-04-2008, 11:52 AM   #34
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Old 04-04-2008, 11:52 AM   #35
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I actually doubt this.

Against which punchers did Dempsey have his chin tested?

The best punchers he faced were Fulton, Willard and Firpo.
No they were the biggest punchers he faced.

Perhaps even the hardest.

They were not necisarily the best punchers or the best chin checkers though.

You equate a fighters power and chin checking ability as a function of their size which is not sound practice in the heavyweight division

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On top of that, Carpentier (LHW) stunned him andTunney (LHW) knocked him down.
These guys could do something that Willard and for that matter Lewis generaly couldnt do.

Hit you with a shot you didnt se coming.

Technique is the third chapter of power.

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If he had to fight Briggs, Bruno, Klitschko, Tyson, Golota, Akinwande, Ruddock, Morrison, Tua, McCall twice, Holyfield twice, Mason, Rahman twice and only suffer one knockdown and one knockout, i'd be surprised.
Well I guess if he blew them all out early it wouldnt prove anything about his chin and he would just be cr4p.

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Old 04-04-2008, 11:56 AM   #36
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Dempsey KO1 Lewis
Wladimir Klitschko KO1 both.
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Old 04-04-2008, 11:58 AM   #37
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About the only topic left is Dempsey vs the Pope.
Dempsey KO1 the Pope.
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Old 04-04-2008, 12:13 PM   #38
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Lewis early rounds ko. Dempsey is a cruiserweight ffs!
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Old 04-04-2008, 12:25 PM   #39
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I think this fight is a toss up. im too tired and bored to go into more lengths. I will say this, I think lennox's smartest plan would be to try to oubox dempsey from a distance and win a decision, cause if he tries to get cute dempsey will catch him and finish him.

Anyone here think Dempsey can put away lennox with one punch? like B level fighters mccall and rahman did?
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Old 04-04-2008, 12:30 PM   #40
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Anyone here think Dempsey can put away lennox with one punch? like B level fighters mccall and rahman did?
I think it the most likely outcome.
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Old 04-04-2008, 12:45 PM   #41
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Anyone here think Dempsey can put away lennox with one punch? like B level fighters mccall and rahman did?
In theory, any heavyweight can knockout any heavyweight particularly where big punchers are concerned. So, yes Dempsey could in theory take out Lewis with one punch.
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:04 PM   #42
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Dempsey is reduced to the proverbial puncher's chance for me. BUT. All you guys are full of shit. There's not one of you in here saying "Lewis Lewis Lewis" who wouldn't be crapping yourself on fight night with Jack in the other corner. Dempsey's offensive arsenal and Lewis' goodish chin make this a powder keg at best.

To those of you shouting LEWIS, just how aggressive do you think he would be? He would be more reticent against a peak Dempsey than he was v Tyson, that's for sure. He doesn't want to get hit by this "cruiser".

Having said all that, i'll take Lewis around 10.
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:07 PM   #44
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Anyone here think Dempsey can put away lennox with one punch? like B level fighters mccall and rahman did?

Probably the same people who think Jeffries had a chance vs Ali.
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:10 PM   #45
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Lewis early rounds ko. Dempsey is a cruiserweight ffs!

No. you're wrong. There'll be another dominant 188 pound heavyweight champion again soon. He'll KO everyone in sight and will insist that he doesn't build up at all because he's sacrificying his speed
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