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View Poll Results: Who will win this great rematch?
Abraham by TKO/KO 145 42.77%
Abraham on points 69 20.35%
Draw 2 0.59%
Miranda on points 21 6.19%
Miranda by TKO/KO 102 30.09%
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Old 04-16-2008, 05:01 PM   #16
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Why the hell are so many picking Miranda T/KO?! Abraham has a granite chin. Miranda couldn't KO him with a broken jaw for ****s sake!


Here we go again....if you don't agree with TFFP then you don't know what your talking about.
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Old 04-16-2008, 05:49 PM   #17
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I'm quite surprised that Team Sauerland agreed on the fight to be held at 166 which could be too much for Abraham. In between 160 and 168, 164 is the middle and Miranda has just moved up to SMW so he should make 164 easily.

On the other hand, fighting a bigger and stronger Miranda could be a good learning experience for Abraham before a Kelly Pavlik fight. If he's gonna have trouble taking Miranda's punch, he won't take Pavlik's too well. But if he can take the SMW Miranda's punch, he'll take Pavlik's as well.
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Old 04-16-2008, 06:11 PM   #18
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Miranda said he would not take the fight under 166lbs. He says it will be hard enough for him to make this weight and stay healthy. Anything under that, and smartly so, he said it would not be worth it for him to take the risk in not being 100%. Too bad he didnt have this intelligence before the Pavlik fight. He should have moved up after the first Abraham I.
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Old 04-16-2008, 07:10 PM   #19
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Miranda didn't deserve to win on points, he fouled like **** and couldn't put away a guy with a broken jaw for shits sake.
Yup.
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Old 04-16-2008, 07:13 PM   #20
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Since they put plates in Abraham's jaw, his head may come off when he gets hit with one of those hooks.
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Old 04-16-2008, 07:14 PM   #21
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I sure am happy that this fight is happening again! As long as Miranda doesn't have problems making 166, I think he will win this fight by UD or late stoppage. If Miranda does have problems making weight, then I will go with Abraham by UD.
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Old 04-16-2008, 07:16 PM   #22
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Yeah...very good fight; rematch was in order. Best fight out there, third only to Bika v. Miranda and Andrade v. Miranda.
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Old 04-16-2008, 07:19 PM   #23
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abraham is just far more talented.

he will whip the already exposed miranda. abraham has improved. miranda has declined.
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Old 04-16-2008, 08:21 PM   #24
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abraham is just far more talented.

he will whip the already exposed miranda. abraham has improved. miranda has declined.
How has Abraham improved? Has hasnt been in a decent fight since he faced Miranda. And he hasnt looked too good in what should have been easy fights! Yea, ended them with some highlite reel KO's, but it was not walk in the park up until then!
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How has Abraham improved? Has hasnt been in a decent fight since he faced Miranda. And he hasnt looked too good in what should have been easy fights! Yea, ended them with some highlite reel KO's, but it was not walk in the park up until then!
Good lookin out Pantera, don't know if you remember but it looks like I read your "signs" correctly when I was trying to drag it out of you yesterday.

I said, after you told me "well the poll is getting closer", that I had taken notice that in an earlier post you said "I hope it's AA". I understood you couldn't tell me until Press release, but I did get it off your clues huh?

Miranda is gonna THFO of him this time.
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Old 04-16-2008, 08:40 PM   #26
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How has Abraham improved? Has hasnt been in a decent fight since he faced Miranda. And he hasnt looked too good in what should have been easy fights! Yea, ended them with some highlite reel KO's, but it was not walk in the park up until then!
Had Elvin "I got owned twice by David Banks" Ayala just been able to hold on for 28 more seconds, it would have been hillarious.
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Old 04-16-2008, 08:49 PM   #27
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Good lookin out Pantera, don't know if you remember but it looks like I read your "signs" correctly when I was trying to drag it out of you yesterday.

I said, after you told me "well the poll is getting closer", that I had taken notice that in an earlier post you said "I hope it's AA". I understood you couldn't tell me until Press release, but I did get it off your clues huh?

Miranda is gonna THFO of him this time.
Yea... You were too sneaky for me!!
I had to keep quiet after that. There was no way to weasle my way out of your question. I knew the 'offical' annoucenemnt was coming early today though, so I figured not many others would pick up on that.
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Old 04-16-2008, 09:52 PM   #28
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UPDATE:

Funny mandatory Giovanni LORENZO vs. Raul MARQUEZ will be on the same SHOWTIME card on June 21st.
I'm sure that was part of the deal to get Lorenzo to step aside to allow this to happen.
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Old 04-16-2008, 09:58 PM   #29
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Why the hell are so many picking Miranda T/KO?! Abraham has a granite chin. Miranda couldn't KO him with a broken jaw for ****s sake!
Some AA supporters say the only reason his jaw was broken was because he got caught at the wrong time, his mouth was open. I've read some 'stuff' on the theory of knockouts and, the theory anyhow, is that the brain gets sloshed around in the cerebral fluid.

So, a straight punch may break your jaw, but one coming from the side is more likely to knock you out. Think more violent head movement.

I haven't yet seen the punch that broke his jaw. Now, if it came in sideways, and AA was able to keep his head in place with neck muscles while his jaw gave way, then maybe it is fair to say he has a granite chin.

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I'm quite surprised that Team Sauerland agreed on the fight to be held at 166 which could be too much for Abraham. In between 160 and 168, 164 is the middle and Miranda has just moved up to SMW so he should make 164 easily.

On the other hand, fighting a bigger and stronger Miranda could be a good learning experience for Abraham before a Kelly Pavlik fight. If he's gonna have trouble taking Miranda's punch, he won't take Pavlik's too well. But if he can take the SMW Miranda's punch, he'll take Pavlik's as well.
Well, maybe Miranda can tell Kelly how hard AA punches too. I remember Kelly comparing Miranda's punches to a mule!
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