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View Poll Results: Who will win this great rematch?
Abraham by TKO/KO 145 42.77%
Abraham on points 69 20.35%
Draw 2 0.59%
Miranda on points 21 6.19%
Miranda by TKO/KO 102 30.09%
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Old 04-19-2008, 08:54 AM   #61
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Yeah, he might have, but he hasn't, so what's the point?
Abraham by KO.
Not sure, but he may be referring to the level of competition Abraham has faced since then. Posters here have taken that as a sign he was 'ruined' by Miranda. Imagine the surprise when AA started talking about wanting Pavlik, let alone dropping dime to Miranda.
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Old 04-19-2008, 10:33 AM   #62
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Abraham's jaw has not been tested since Miranda shattered it. His level of competition has been disgraceful, especially for a so called champion.

Now without a baby sitter protecting him in the ring and giving him long needed breaks when Miranda was about to stop him, Abraham will have to win the one on his own. Pantera will make a point this fight and we will no longer hear all the BS that he 'couldn't even stop a guy with a broken jaw'. ONLY IN GERMANY!
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Old 04-19-2008, 10:40 AM   #63
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Abraham wins again he is tougher than Miranda who talks a bunch of shiut and then got raped by Kelly Pavlik. Miranda is one of the most overhyped fighters today.
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Old 04-19-2008, 10:40 AM   #64
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Abraham's jaw has not been tested since Miranda shattered it. His level of competition has been disgraceful, especially for a so called champion.

Now without a baby sitter protecting him in the ring and giving him long needed breaks when Miranda was about to stop him, Abraham will have to win the one on his own. Pantera will make a point this fight and we will no longer hear all the BS that he 'couldn't even stop a guy with a broken jaw'. ONLY IN GERMANY!


How did that Pavlik fight turn out for Miranda?
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Old 04-19-2008, 10:47 AM   #65
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How did that Pavlik fight turn out for Miranda?
Pavlik is my hometown boy, but I believe both Taylor and Miranda moved up too late based on weight issues at 160. Kelly won't be far behind. I'm an advocate of having rules that lead to fighters fighting at more natural weights. This crap of entering the ring two full weight classes above weigh in weight should stop, IMO. It hurts fighters and robs fight fans of fights with fighters at their best. Again, IMO.
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Old 04-19-2008, 10:48 AM   #66
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How did that Pavlik fight turn out for Miranda?
I don't see how the Pavlik fight at 160lbs has anything to do with this topic.
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Old 04-19-2008, 10:54 AM   #67
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Abraham's jaw has not been tested since Miranda shattered it. His level of competition has been disgraceful, especially for a so called champion.

Now without a baby sitter protecting him in the ring and giving him long needed breaks when Miranda was about to stop him, Abraham will have to win the one on his own. Pantera will make a point this fight and we will no longer hear all the BS that he 'couldn't even stop a guy with a broken jaw'. ONLY IN GERMANY!
I still have to give the guy props. You posted that his folks started the talks. Now they agree to come into Miranda's back yard. They obviously feel, and are out to prove, that location wasn't the deciding factor. (I hope they realize a flurry at the bell doesn't count so much outside Germany though)

I'm really looking forward to this fight. This one will be decided in the ring. Don't bother hiring judges. Save the money. On second thought, I work cheap.
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:10 AM   #68
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I still have to give the guy props. You posted that his folks started the talks. Now they agree to come into Miranda's back yard. They obviously feel, and are out to prove, that location wasn't the deciding factor. (I hope they realize a flurry at the bell doesn't count so much outside Germany though)

I'm really looking forward to this fight. This one will be decided in the ring. Don't bother hiring judges. Save the money. On second thought, I work cheap.

I always have given Abraham his props. He has balls of steel! But there is no doubt the venue/country changed the results of fight #1.

This time the best man will walk away the winner. It is going to be a tough fight for both and a war. Great for the fans.
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There you go folks...
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Old 04-21-2008, 11:42 AM   #70
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Miranda KO this time around.
No Germans to save u in Florida.
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No Germans to save u in Florida.
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Old 04-21-2008, 04:34 PM   #72
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Miranda KO this time around.
No Germans to save u in Florida.
Who saved Abraham? No one, they left him in the ring alone with a broken jaw vs. a dirty, vicious puncher. But insted of dying, he won.
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:06 PM   #73
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Who saved Abraham? No one, they left him in the ring alone with a broken jaw vs. a dirty, vicious puncher. But insted of dying, he won.
I guess you missed the part when Randy Neuman (the corrupt ref) allowed doctors to work on Abraham during a 5+ minute rest. And I guessed you missed the other 5 min rest Randy Neuman gave Abraham for what appeared to be a clean shot from Miranda when Abraham seemed ready to collapse from exhaustion.

And did you also miss the numerous times Neuman actually pulls Miranda away from Abraham for no appearant reasons.....
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I guess you missed the part when Randy Neuman (the corrupt ref) allowed doctors to work on Abraham during a 5+ minute rest. And I guessed you missed the other 5 min rest Randy Neuman gave Abraham for what appeared to be a clean shot from Miranda when Abraham seemed ready to collapse from exhaustion.

And did you also miss the numerous times Neuman actually pulls Miranda away from Abraham for no appearant reasons.....
No no no... I didn't miss one moment since I put SERIOUS money on Edison "Pantera" Miranda on that fight! Also, if I had a magical remote controller, I would've teleported a f*kin' grinder machine to tear the referee in pieces for the disgrace of boxing.

But it wasn't stopped, Arthur wasn't TKO'd, and in the end, Abraham did enough on my cards to win even without the intentional headbutt deductions, and Abraham earned so much respect in my eyes for finishing the fight and landing some bombs in the process, that I happily forgot that the referee and Ulli Wegner threw my bag of money out of the window.

So who saved Abraham? No one. He saved himself. The hard way.

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Old 04-21-2008, 08:18 PM   #75
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No no no... I didn't miss one moment since I put SERIOUS money on Edison "Pantera" Miranda on that fight! Also, if I had a magical remote controller, I would've teleported a f*kin' grinder machine to tear the referee in pieces for the disgrace of boxing.

But it wasn't stopped, Arthur wasn't TKO'd, and in the end, Abraham did enough on my cards to win even without the intentional headbutt deductions, and Abraham earned so much respect in my eyes for finishing the fight and landing some bombs in the process, that I happily forgot that the referee and Ulli Wegner threw my bag of money out of the window.

So who saved Abraham? No one. He saved himself. The hard way.
Yes, I give him respect for putting up with some brutal punshiment though a serious injury. But without the babysitting of Neuman, I dont think he would have lasted all 12 rounds.
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