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Old 04-19-2008, 11:49 PM   #31
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Watch it again Jeff.
What did you think Joe did that was so much better than Hopkins Gaz?
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:50 PM   #32
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The judges liked his kind of punches better. That's what I said.
I think JC forced the fight and it was effective aggresion, he deserved to win IMHO.
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:51 PM   #33
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I think JC forced the fight and it was effective aggresion, he deserved to win IMHO.
Hopkins landed the cleaner more telling blows. Joe never made a dent in Bhops.
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:51 PM   #34
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:52 PM   #35
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What did you think Joe did that was so much better than Hopkins Gaz?
He came forward mate. That grinds the 10-9s out. Hopkins is one hell of a 42 year old though...
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:54 PM   #36
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Landed lead rights practically at will
That's an exageration
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:55 PM   #37
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Calzaghe DID MORE.
But, his punches were sloppy even by his standards. If that was an amateur fight, Bernard won about 50-2 on clean punches.
But it was a pro fight, and Calzaghe landed more.

At the end of the fight, I respected what Bernard did better.
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:56 PM   #38
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He came forward mate. That grinds the 10-9s out. Hopkins is one hell of a 42 year old though...
Ricky Hatton came foward mate. Hopkins is an amazing 43 year old. I have to say I'm finding it hard to give Joe credit here especially after so many were predicting a complete beatdown.
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Old 04-19-2008, 11:58 PM   #39
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I'm going to bed.... All I will say is despite the two blind mice, I was right Hopkins dominated in a sense that he controlled the bout. Landed lead rights practically at will and showed much more ring craft and skill. That was shite from Calzaghe. I'll honour my bet Flux but only because the Judges couldn't do their job properly. Joe was completely out classed and taken to school. He was the aggressor but punched ineffectively throughout. Don't want to sound like a sore loser so won't comment on this fight again. Well done Calzaghe and his supporters you got a gift there.


One good punch a round doesnt win fights.

Out of interest, which rounds did people think Hopkins won? The 1st obviously.....2, 3, 10 he had a shout for, after that I was struggling to give him a round?
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:00 AM   #40
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One good punch a round doesnt win fights.

Out of interest, which rounds did people think Hopkins won? The 1st obviously.....2, 3, 10 he had a shout for, after that I was struggling to give him a round?
We could do without the patronising emoticons, we're having an adult discussion in the Brit forum.

I would have to watch it again to give you the exact rounds but Hopkins won the cleaner blows throughout. Joe never made a dent in Hopkins.
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:00 AM   #41
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Ricky Hatton came foward mate. Hopkins is an amazing 43 year old. I have to say I'm finding it hard to give Joe credit here especially after so many were predicting a complete beatdown.
Yep, hats off to Hopkins but I thought JC won pretty comfortably on my card.
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We could do without the patronising emoticons, we're having an adult discussion in the Brit forum.

I would have to watch it again to give you the exact rounds but Hopkins won the cleaner blows throughout. Joe never made a dent in Hopkins.
Depends how you score fights then.

I've always favoured aggression and punches landed. Some favour quality shots, even if they are one a round.

I thought Joe won 8 rounds, maybe more.
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:04 AM   #43
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Yep, hats off to Hopkins but I thought JC won pretty comfortably.
I totally disagree, Joe did not look impressive Hopkins landed the cleaner blows, dropped Joe, controlled the pace & as champion should have got the nod. Joe hardly wrested the title from Hopkins did he?
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:05 AM   #44
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To be fair, who ever does look impressive against Hopkins? It's why he's an ATG.

FWIW, I had Joe winning by 2, but like most people have said, I wouldn't have argued too much had it gone the other way.

I want to re-watch just rounds 5 through 12, to see how much they were coloured in my mind by the round 1 KD. That's for tomorrow though.
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Dan, who did you think won the fight?
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