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Old 04-20-2008, 12:06 AM   #46
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Dan, who did you think won the fight?
Hopkins.

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Old 04-20-2008, 12:09 AM   #47
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I totally disagree, Joe did not look impressive Hopkins landed the cleaner blows, dropped Joe, controlled the pace & as champion should have got the nod. Joe hardly wrested the title from Hopkins did he?
The beating the champion cleanly stuff is bullshit.

It's scored as Calzaghe Vs Hopkins, not Calzaghe vs the champion.
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:15 AM   #48
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To be fair, who ever does look impressive against Hopkins? It's why he's an ATG.

FWIW, I had Joe winning by 2, but like most people have said, I wouldn't have argued too much had it gone the other way.

I want to re-watch just rounds 5 through 12, to see how much they were coloured in my mind by the round 1 KD. That's for tomorrow though.
i pretty much agree with every word of that
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:15 AM   #49
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The beating the champion cleanly stuff is bullshit.

It's scored as Calzaghe Vs Hopkins, not Calzaghe vs the champion.
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:17 AM   #50
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Hopkins is something else though
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:17 AM   #51
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Dan, what did you think of the headbutt, the constant holding and the faking of low blows from Hopkins?

I know you hate dirty fighters, you must have been disgusted, I know I was.
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:17 AM   #52
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The beating the champion cleanly stuff is bullshit.

It's scored as Calzaghe Vs Hopkins, not Calzaghe vs the champion.
I still think Hopkins one regardless. I'd like to see someone make a serious case for the 116-111 score.
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:18 AM   #53
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I'm going to bed.... All I will say is despite the two blind mice, I was right Hopkins dominated in a sense that he controlled the bout. Landed lead rights practically at will and showed much more ring craft and skill. That was shite from Calzaghe. I'll honour my bet Flux but only because the Judges couldn't do their job properly. Joe was completely out classed and taken to school. He was the aggressor but punched ineffectively throughout. Don't want to sound like a sore loser so won't comment on this fight again. Well done Calzaghe and his supporters you got a gift there.
Come off it mate.

alzaghe deserved to win the fight.

Hopkins started well, but when everytime a ref has to break the fighter's as soon as they get in close, and he does'nt take a point off the man who clinches (Hopkins) there's somethign really fecked up.

Cortez was full of crap tonight and a hypocrite.

To pull Hatton up like he did then not even warn Hopkins once for clinching EVERY SINGLE TIME they get close, was an absolute joke.

In was a close, shit fight and Hopkins made the fight shit.

Calzaghe wanted to trade, Hopkins did'nt.

Oh and the low blow nonsense was a joke too.

Hopkins spoiled the fight and lets hope we see the last of the man who's anything but an executioner.
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:21 AM   #54
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Dan, what did you think of the headbutt, the constant holding and the faking of low blows from Hopkins?

I know you hate dirty fighters, you must have been disgusted, I know I was.
There was a lot of holding but I felt they were both initiating the clinches & we often see this when an orthodox & southpaw come together. The headbutt was obviously bad & you shouldn't do that but he was warned & didnt do it again. I think the first low blow was clearly genuine hit right on the cup. The second I haven't seen again but Cortez told them to box so no issue there.
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:23 AM   #55
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Dan, which 6 rounds did Hopkins win to get the fight then??
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:25 AM   #56
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Dan, which 6 rounds did Hopkins win to get the fight then??
I already said I need to watch it again to give you the exact rounds. It's 5.30 in the morning.
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:26 AM   #57
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The judges obviously liked pitty-pat shots better than meaningful ones. One of them really liked them.
Hopkins landed the cleaner more eye catching shots and started the fight very well. So much so that after the first 4-5 rounds i thought Calzaghe was in trouble.

The problem though is that Hopkins spoiled throughout the whole fight and acted like a bitch.

He's a boring ****er and Joe deserved to win.

Cortez was a ****ing Hypocrite two.

Hopkins clinched every single time they came close to each other and Cortez did **** all.

This is coming from someone who thought that Cortez actually did a pretty decent job in the Hatton vs Mayweather fight.

After tonight though Cortez is just a corrupt, hypocritical bastard.

Hopkins made ANOTHER ugly fight close without actually doing much boxing at all.

hopkins just made himself and Calzaghe look bad by not actually doing much boxing.
Then he complains about being robbed.
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:27 AM   #58
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That's an exageration
A massive one.
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:28 AM   #59
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I still think Hopkins one regardless. I'd like to see someone make a serious case for the 116-111 score.
At least the 116-111 judge got the right guy winning!!!
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At least the 116-111 judge got the right guy winning!!!
No, no thats not the point here & you know it.
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