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Old 04-20-2008, 08:40 AM   #16
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Before this fight people were harping on about how Hopkins is amazing for his age, and is still one of the best fighters in the world. Now, all of a sudden he gets beat by Calzaghe and people start bringing the age thing into it, trying to detract from Joe's great win.
Who should Joe have fought instead of Hopkins? I was under the impression that he was the top guy at light heavy.
It was always going to happen, though. Just like Lacy went from being 'The Next Tyson' to a bum that nobody ever rated anyway after Joe had his way with him. Similarly, Kessler's now a one dimensional joker with no heart.

He was never going to come out with much credit from some quarters after this fight, win or lose.
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:03 AM   #17
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what legacy apart from beating kessler, beating a 43 year old man and a little boy from the contender
Likewise with Bhops, apart from beating blown up lightweights he has beaten nobodies.
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:08 AM   #18
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Calzaghe was given a gift decision. He clearly lost the fight and he has limitations. I knew he would be put on the canvas and messed around by by B-HOP. The only mistake B-HOP was not to stop Calzaghe.
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:20 AM   #19
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Calzaghe was given a gift decision. He clearly lost the fight and he has limitations. I knew he would be put on the canvas and messed around by by B-HOP. The only mistake B-HOP was not to stop Calzaghe.
Hardly a mistake, I don't think he would've intentionally let it go to the judges if he could've avoided it.
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:33 AM   #20
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Calzaghe Jones is a joke fight. Roy was KO'd by Tarver & Johnson over three years ago. I think they "killed the legend" in that instance.
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:37 AM   #21
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Calzaghe Jones is a joke fight. Roy was KO'd by Tarver & Johnson over three years ago. I think they "killed the legend" in that instance.
Similar to bhops beating ODH, Trinidad, SSM etc etc.
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Old 04-20-2008, 09:40 AM   #22
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Similar to bhops beating ODH, Trinidad, SSM etc etc.
I didn't realise ODH & Trinidad were way past their prime & had been knocked out twice prior to them meeting.
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Old 04-20-2008, 10:37 AM   #23
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Jones means nothing. I predicted this a long time ago, it's just a big money making exercise and an easy farewell for Joe

I can see why Joe would do it. He doesn't need to be fighting any more young contenders, he did that with Lacy and Kessler, and look how he gets discredited. Might as well make as much money as possible
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Old 04-20-2008, 10:44 AM   #24
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Priceless.

Eubank was never a ducker - but he always valued his heath and wanted to be paid well to put it the line which I think is fair enough.

Benn would have fought em in their living room for free given half a chance.
Eubank has openly admited that he ducked these guys.
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Old 04-20-2008, 10:51 AM   #25
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I didn't realise ODH & Trinidad were way past their prime & had been knocked out twice prior to them meeting.
Not natural middleweights were they sunshine
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Not natural middleweights were they sunshine
That wasn't the argument you were originally making? It's okay for you to keep stalking me though. People tend to get obsessed with me, I'm used to it.
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Old 04-20-2008, 12:34 PM   #27
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Eubank has openly admited that he ducked these guys.
No he open admitted there wasn't enough money on offer if I remember correctly.

Why the hell would a guy that fough peak Benn twice duck anyone?
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Old 04-21-2008, 08:54 AM   #28
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Calzaghe is no longer at his peak either though. Calz and RJJ are of the same "generation" of fighters so I think its a fair(ish) fight to have as his last.
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Old 04-21-2008, 08:55 AM   #29
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No he open admitted there wasn't enough money on offer if I remember correctly.

Why the hell would a guy that fough peak Benn twice duck anyone?
Thats a damn fine point !
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Old 04-21-2008, 01:03 PM   #30
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I hear Mickey Rourke is coming out of his boxing exodus,then joe can really cement his dodgy legacy!
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