Was Khan even hit on the chin/jaw when he went down?

[The Exile]

Originally Posted by nulty

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Been removed by sports network already


I was pretty pissed during the fight but i remember it being a couple of good shots that eventually put him on his ass.

[Boro chris]

More and more fights are getting removed. These will often never see the light of day on dvd so whats the point? It's the same story with the margarito/williams fight.

[GazOC]

Yeah, I could understand if they were hoping to make money from selling the DVD (like the UFC) but more often than not the fights are never seen again.

[stake501]

Originally Posted by Dunky McCafferty

Good post Nulty, & I see what you are saying. Im not going to hate Khan cos of his fans, cos to me Amir is a good person & is the real deal. That was a great win for him last night, cos most dont understand just how underrated Willie Limond is, I have followed him for years & hes a good fighter, as he proved. But Khan beat him in his 13th fight at the young age of 20, & I said before if Khan could stop Limond that would prove him to be the real deal in my eyes, & I stand by that.

But I just wish his fans werent such assholes, & tried to learn about the sport of boxing a bit. Im no angel myself, but if I dont like a fighter I can back it up with reasons either rightly or wrongly, but its sickening to read bozos talk about it like it was a common streetfight between two guys who hated each other, cos that couldnt be further from the truth.

I have always rated Limond as well, and in my opinion he could beat Earl as well. I think Thaxton though is the guy on top of the british lw scene though.

[Max Molyneux]

Originally Posted by Dunky McCafferty

I missed this post my man, was too busy being angry for a few moments there But thanks to Nulty I have calmed down a bit now

Now thats an idea, playing Manhunt pretending it was nuthuggers or my enemies on ESB, but wouldnt that make me a bit mad? Fuck it, its worth a try

I'd play the prison level and kill all those Nutthuggers!

Man I love that level, the noises coming from tae convicts are funny as fook!

[LeadLeftHook]

Originally Posted by Dunky McCafferty

We were going to upload the full fight earlier toninght to let everbody see it, as it was great fight.

However, the awful things the Khan fans are saying about Limond in Youtube put us right off, & we decided not to bother.

Stuff like calling Limond a 'crackhead' etc... Do Khan fans know anything about boxing? limond is a proud family man & a self employed joiner who works long hours 6 days a week besides being a full time fighter to support his family, Limond is a credit to the sport of boxing. I dont mind Khan the fighter, but his fans are a pretty horrible bunch going by their fanatical screaming on Youtube.

Fuckers are all in screaming personal insults bout Willie, & deluding themselves that Khan was pushed & wasnt really knocked down

I would be lying if I said Khans mad nuthuggers havent got to me, cos they have.

Thats just youtube. A discussion on almost any video on there turns into insults and name calling. Well if you look at Amir Khan fan forum, most have shown respect for Limmond.

[AllyT]

Khan was in fact hit with several well places blows which included an uppercut to the chin.

[achillesthegreat]

Khan was hit with seven shots of varying degress. The first was a hard right that got to its destination quicker than Khans looping counter left hook was going to.

[Amsterdam]

Originally Posted by achillesthegreat

Khan was hit with seven shots of varying degress. The first was a hard right that got to its destination quicker than Khans looping counter left hook was going to.

The fact that he went down well from a light hitting journeyman-level fighter(internationally) is telling of what he will be able to accomplish at the World Level. Imagine if Limond had Nate Campbell's power.

[achillesthegreat]

Originally Posted by Amsterdam

The fact that he went down well from a light hitting journeyman-level fighter(internationally) is telling of what he will be able to accomplish at the World Level. Imagine if Limond had Nate Campbell's power.

This is true, however Khan is not the finished article by any stretch of the imagination. A bad chin is not necessarly the end.

Limond IS NOT a journeyman. You are simply taking a guess, you do not know. In Arthur and Khan he may have lost to two world champs. You do not know yet. You go too much on what you think and not what you know. This is why you need to let things evolve and grow before you start being so judgemental.

I agree Limond is generally a light hitter but he uncharacteristically look to make the fight, walk Khan down, come in with big shots etc Ultimately Khan was caught while punching and he didn't even see the right hand. Plus it was six punches later that he went down.

I thought maybe Khan is hiding some Morales chin but I always said he didn't look solid in the pros yet. I wasn't sure on his strength, power, ability to take a shot etc His strength is still in some question though his power keeps reaching new heights. His chin has foiled in his first big fight but let's wait and see.

[Amsterdam]

Achilles - I am REALLY not trying to be a pest.

I feel that if Limond were thrown around internationally, then he'd have anywhere from 10-12 losses against medium opposition and would have lost to gate keeper's like Miguel Huerta.

Huerta is considered a gate keeper/journeyman, but the guy has well rounded skills, power, chin and stamina and stays around... the same goes for tough nosed guys like Hernandes(whom KOed Litzau), Hernandez has a better jab than most contending British domestic fighters.

The difference is that these guys are thrown around to the wolves internationally, I feel also that both guys would have easily KOed Khan early and BOTH are at best gate keepers. Limond is slightly less than them in terms of all around capability in my opinion, even though he's not a journeyman for the British domestic scene.

See? I just gave two limited type fighters, both of whom have wracked up losses a lot of credit as GOOD fighters who've been around the block.

Miguel Huerta would have KOed Khan with a straight left hand as early as round 2, he has 10 losses, is considered a "journeyman" on the WORLD CIRCUIT.

Rooq talked about the difference between the domestic scene and the international circuit and it was a very good thread. I feel that you're giving your domestic guys way too much damn credit.

[Amsterdam]

Furthermore, I can tell you right now that Khan is nothing more than a massively overhyped, Jason Litzau type. HELL, Litzau even has better power and comparable speed, just totally LACKS mentality.

And here is to Amir's credit:

He's got heart, I don't deny this.

[achillesthegreat]

Originally Posted by Amsterdam

And here is to Amir's credit:

He's got heart, I don't deny this.

I rest in peace.

[achillesthegreat]

Originally Posted by Amsterdam

Achilles - I am REALLY not trying to be a pest.

I feel that if Limond were thrown around internationally, then he'd have anywhere from 10-12 losses against medium opposition and would have lost to gate keeper's like Miguel Huerta.

Huerta is considered a gate keeper/journeyman, but the guy has well rounded skills, power, chin and stamina and stays around... the same goes for tough nosed guys like Hernandes(whom KOed Litzau), Hernandez has a better jab than most contending British domestic fighters.

The difference is that these guys are thrown around to the wolves internationally, I feel also that both guys would have easily KOed Khan early and BOTH are at best gate keepers. Limond is slightly less than them in terms of all around capability in my opinion, even though he's not a journeyman for the British domestic scene.

See? I just gave two limited type fighters, both of whom have wracked up losses a lot of credit as GOOD fighters who've been around the block.

Miguel Huerta would have KOed Khan with a straight left hand as early as round 2, he has 10 losses, is considered a "journeyman" on the WORLD CIRCUIT.

Rooq talked about the difference between the domestic scene and the international circuit and it was a very good thread. I feel that you're giving your domestic guys way too much damn credit.

MAYBE so, at 135 I think Limond would be your typical 30-10 fighter but this is not embarrassing. I want you to think Jimmy Young, Emmanuel August or Ralph Tiger.

Let's drop and notch and think of your typical journeyman (though 30-10 still isn't journeyman), they always hurt fighters. Juan Diaz was put down by some random. He was put down twice in fact and was thought to have a weak chin - BOOM he takes Freitas shots.

Anyone who has seen Haye-Mock would think Hayes chin IS AWFUL. His world was ROCKED by a SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT! He improved his conditioning, paced himself better and got a defence then boom he has improved ten fold and is fighting for the title.

Don't ever say I give domestic guys too much credit. 95% of our fighters are shit. Ok, 90%, 5% turn into Hattons, Calzaghes etc and the others turn into European, WBO types in Cook, Arthur etc

[Amsterdam]

Haye doesn't have a glass chin in my opinion, I really think weight draining was his issue. HOWEVER, I don't think Haye has a solid chin either, I think it's just solid enough to hold up under circumstances where a glass chin would prevent success.

And you know I got nothing against Haye, the more a guy like him succeeds, the better for boxing.

At the very least, you have to admit that I can spot a bad chin with little to no evidence, considering that I have NEVER been incorrect in about 50 or so predictions over the years on hype jobs.