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Old 07-17-2007, 12:46 PM   #196
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The thing about all of Pep's opponents are, you watch them in a video and they all look absolutely dire -fullstop- If ou saw prospects fighting like them today you would take little interest in them -fullstop- It is time we just used our eyes -fullstop-
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:05 PM   #197
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The thing about all of Pep's opponents are, you watch them in a video and they all look absolutely dire -fullstop- If ou saw prospects fighting like them today you would take little interest in them -fullstop- It is time we just used our eyes -fullstop-
Who are "all" of Pep's opponents that you have seen on film?

We know you've seen Saddler in a Pep fight we won and in the Pep fight he lost (LMFAO@that), but who else have you seen of Pep's opponents?
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:09 PM   #198
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The thing about all of Pep's opponents are, you watch them in a video and they all look absolutely dire -fullstop- If ou saw prospects fighting like them today you would take little interest in them -fullstop- It is time we just used our eyes -fullstop-
Describing Lacy as "dire" in the Calzaghe fight would be too complimentary to his performance.

Your judgement is clouded by the fact you're watching fights in black and white.

You describe the fighting style as "primitive" but you have absolutely no idea why - There hasn't been a single featherweight since Pep with his level of natural ability.

The only thing "primitive" is the cameras used to flim it.

You're just too narrow minded, ignorant and idiotic to see the obvious. Sorry to be rude, but that's simply the case, had to come out and say it. Your opinion is based solely on you not knowing anything about Pep or his career, but knowing all about Calzaghes.

A vast number of experts, and Peps peers, rate him as a top10 P4P'er. Noone will ever rate Calzaghe ahead of him except for pinhead nuthuggers like yourself.
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:14 PM   #199
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Pep's handspeed isn't even blurry in 1940s recordings with an incredibly slow frame rate -fullstop-
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:16 PM   #200
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A vast number of experts, and Peps peers, rate him as a top10 P4P'er. Noone will ever rate Calzaghe ahead of him except for pinhead nuthuggers like yourself.
I am aware of that, Bert Sugar has brainwashed you all and is making a living out of the niche of fans you are all part of -fullstop-
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:19 PM   #201
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I am aware of that, Bert Sugar has brainwashed you all and is making a living out of the niche of fans you are all part of -fullstop-
Actually,

Having a working understanding of boxing history, and the ability to be subjective and unbiased can go a long way in a debate. Therefore, I really don't require the testmonies of Burt Sugar, Nat Fleischer or anyone else to convince me that a guy who won 229 fights over a near 30 year period was great. His career speaks for itself.

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Old 07-17-2007, 01:24 PM   #202
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The world population in the 1940s was something like 4 million people, there was a smaller talent pool back then, it makes perfect sense Sugar Ray Robinson was the only decent fighter -fullstop- Knowing boxing history can make you liable to buy into fairytales -fullstop
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:29 PM   #204
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There were some abysmal boxers back then, but only the highlights have been saved -fullstop- All the Maussa - Harris like footage was burnt years ago -fullstop- Thank god Larry inveted the jab -fullstop-
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:33 PM   #205
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Americans are a fat race, they do not make good featherweights, the fact that American somewhat dominated the featherweight divison back then tells you how weak it really was -fullstop-
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:36 PM   #206
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All the 'great' American featherweights were fighting 50+ years ago [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] not a ****ing coincidence -fullstop-
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:39 PM   #207
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The world population in the 1940s was something like 4 million people, there was a smaller talent pool back then, it makes perfect sense Sugar Ray Robinson was the only decent fighter -fullstop- Knowing boxing history can make you liable to buy into fairytales -fullstop
The World population between 1945 and 1950, was around 2.5 billion. Christ, over 6 million Jews died in the war alone!!!

Dude seriously, find some other chat forum..
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:43 PM   #208
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Americans are a fat race, they do not make good featherweights, the fact that American somewhat dominated the featherweight divison back then tells you how weak it really was -fullstop-
Obesity, is a WORLD epidemic, and one that wasn't typically a problem 60 years ago, due to the abscence of fast food establishements and mass produced levels of junk food. This whole theory of yours about Americans being a fat race, and how it reflects that boxing in the 40's was weak in the lighter divisions, has more holes in it than swiss cheese.
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:49 PM   #209
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Where were all the great South Americans and Asians, forget all about your claim a division with only American talents for the most part can compare with todays global talent base -fullstop-
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:51 PM   #210
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This whole thing has got a bit embarassing now, hasn't it?
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