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Old 04-26-2008, 07:20 AM   #1
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Default Why did Monzón only fight once in the US?

I'd like to know your take on this.
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Old 04-26-2008, 07:25 AM   #2
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Default Re: Why did Monzón only fight once in the US?

Why did Ray Leonard only fight once outside the US?
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Old 04-26-2008, 07:28 AM   #3
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I'd like to know your take on this.
Dont know, his record is impeccable though
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Old 04-26-2008, 07:45 AM   #4
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I don't think Monzon's resume would have changed much if he had done. He got into the ring with some very good fighters in different countries. It's not as if he stayed at home and fought soley in Argentina.

Denmark, Italy, France, Monaco, United States. A bit of a nomad.
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Old 04-26-2008, 08:43 AM   #5
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I'd like to know your take on this.
ome advantage ,according to Emille Griffith.
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Old 04-26-2008, 09:39 AM   #6
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Default Re: Why did Monzón only fight once in the US?

Well, it's not like Monzón was afraid of anybody. Imv, he would have defeated anybody regardless of the country in which the match took place. So, why he did he only fight once in the US? Come on, i'm sure you have an informed opinion about this. Manassa, you sure do.
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Old 04-26-2008, 10:03 AM   #7
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I don't know, but I'm sure that he would have beaten anybody in whatever country he fought them in.
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...............I'm sure it was money. He was very popular in France and Monte Carlo, and was paid far more handsomely than he could be expected to be paid here.
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One wonders if he feared getting ripped off among the numerous other solid reasons?
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Old 04-26-2008, 11:14 AM   #10
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He fought more times outside of his continent than most other ATG's.
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Old 04-26-2008, 11:25 AM   #11
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...............I'm sure it was money. He was very popular in France and Monte Carlo, and was paid far more handsomely than he could be expected to be paid here.
I agree. I wonder if this could have to do with Carlos' style, Carlos wasn't flashy or a knockout artist. Do you think that this could have something to do with the lack of interest with Monzón in the US? i read somewhere that his fight vs Licata didn't leave a good impression (understandbly so), but it wasn't Monzon's fault IMO.
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Old 04-26-2008, 11:36 AM   #12
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Most of the best middleweights were not american.
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Old 04-26-2008, 11:45 AM   #13
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ome advantage ,according to Emille Griffith.

Yeah, it's unfair if when Americans or American based fighters have to go abroad isn't it. It actually should be chalked off their record and listed as a No-Contest.
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Also, between 1970 and 1977 many world title fights took place outside the US, even heavyweights (for a welcome change). I think in 1974 there was only two or three world title fights in America. Some other years weren't too far behind either.
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I agree. I wonder if this could have to do with Carlos' style, Carlos wasn't flashy or a knockout artist. Do you think that this could have something to do with the lack of interest with Monzón in the US? i read somewhere that his fight vs Licata didn't leave a good impression (understandbly so), but it wasn't Monzon's fault IMO.

...........For a while, I considered making a thead about this very subject, the "American" preference for a certain style versus the european style, which is more of what Monzon exhibited. In the end I thought better of it, because the lines of regional styles have become so dimmed over the years it doesn't really hold true any more.

Europeans seemed to appreciate more of the technical aspects of a fight, and would politely applaud a nice spin move off the ropes, for example. A "typical european fighter" would try merely to outscore his opponent the way a chess player might play for a pawn advantage. By contrast, American fighters seemed to exhibit the attitude of a boxing match as war played out on the canvas, as the fans demanded.
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