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Old 05-06-2008, 05:50 PM   #16
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Exactly Hatton's got all the popularity + connections. Witter is not likely to get the big fights if the likes of Hatton refuse to fight him. All the names you reeled off agreed to fight Hatton, they gave him a chance.
Actually, Hatton was mandatory to face Tsyzu. That's how he got a p4p rating and world wide recognition. You know, the way most do it. Junior was too busy asking Hatton for a fight to get himself into such a position.
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It's taken me this long for the penny to drop, but the fundamental difference I seem to see between Hatton fans and Witter fans is that Hatton fans look at boxing as a popularity contest and Witter fans like to see the best fight each other.
But Witter isn't the best. Lazcano is a warm-up and Witter has a madatory, so a Witter bout couldn't have been next for Hatton. Is Malignaggi better than Witter? Yes. After Malignaggi, Hatton has two more fights with HBO. A possible rematch with Mayweather and a mega fight with De La Hoya. They are both harder fights for Hatton than Witter is

I understand the "best should fight the best" logic, but Witter isn't the best out there for Hatton.
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I understand the whole 'boxing is business' aspect, but still like to see the best fight each other. Maybe I'm naive.
I do too. However, like I said, Witter isn't the best and there are guys who would make more money for Hatton, HBO and GBP. A fight with Witter makes no sense for anyone apart from Witter and his 9 fans.
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Old 05-06-2008, 06:02 PM   #18
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Actually, Hatton was mandatory to face Tsyzu. That's how he got a p4p rating and world wide recognition. You know, the way most do it. Junior was too busy asking Hatton for a fight to get himself into such a position.
I thought you placed more faith in The Ring than the alphabet boys.
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Old 05-06-2008, 06:04 PM   #19
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Is Malignaggi better than Witter? Yes.
I might be wrong but I think The Ring + others have Witter at #2, so I'd say a majority of people disagree with your view.
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I thought you placed more faith in The Ring than the alphabet boys.
The Ring doesn't have mandatory challengers.
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I might be wrong but I think The Ring + others have Witter at #2, so I'd say a majority of people disagree with your view.
True, but The Ring rates on accomplishments rather than talent. I think Malignaggi is better than Witter, but Witter is more proven.

The Ring also has Taylor behind Bika, Povetkin behind Valuev, Peterson behind Santa Cruz and a load of other incorrect ratings. They are right to do so, of course, as accomplishments are the only factual thing you can base these lists off, but it doesn't make them right. Taylor is better than Bika, Povektin is better than valuev, Peterson is better than Santa Cruz and Malignaggi is better than Witter.
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Old 05-06-2008, 06:11 PM   #22
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Old 05-06-2008, 06:16 PM   #23
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True, but The Ring rates on accomplishments rather than talent. I
If that's true it's fair to question their ranking of Hatton at #1 after some of his recent performances.
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Take a look at the polls in the General Forum
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can you point them out to me?
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I guess the replies to this thread prove your point fat joe.
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Old 05-06-2008, 06:39 PM   #27
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I guess the replies to this thread prove your point fat joe.
Yes, even though few have answered it directly.
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Castillo... a good two years from his best and having come off of a very contentious win.
Castillo was ranked above Witter at 140 when Hatton fought him.
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If that's true it's fair to question their ranking of Hatton at #1 after some of his recent performances.
Look at The Rings policy on their champions.....
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You can substitute with 'Hatton Haters' if that pleases you
Thats the big thing for me. A lot of posters are just anti-Hatton and Witter is just the tool they use to have pop at him. If it wasn't for Hatton Witter wouldn't even get a look in around here.
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