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Old 07-18-2007, 02:08 AM   #16
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I doubt it. If Alexis couldn't beat Pryor, then he has little chace of beating Duran.
Well EVERY feather has little chance of beating Duran. That's hardly the point. I'm just saying, stylistically he matches Hearns in certain respects.

And in any case, the Pryor fight was held at 140, not at 135, where Alexis was better.
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:18 AM   #17
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Well EVERY feather has little chance of beating Duran. That's hardly the point. I'm just saying, stylistically he matches Hearns in certain respects.

And in any case, the Pryor fight was held at 140, not at 135, where Alexis was better.
Still, Pryor is just not in the same class as Duran. Head to head Duran smashes Pryor, so I can't see Arguello succeding with Duran, though he failed with Pryor.
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:25 AM   #18
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Sandy Saddler.
Mother****er, beat me to it.

It's gotta be somebody with KO power I would think, as a smaller slickster type would probably be pressured into defeat.

Maybe Naz on a big longshot?
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:33 AM   #19
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Still, Pryor is just not in the same class as Duran. Head to head Duran smashes Pryor, so I can't see Arguello succeding with Duran, though he failed with Pryor.
Yeah probably not, but at the same time, what chance is a feather that lost to George Aroujo, Paddy DeMarco and Del Flanagan? I'd give Alexis a better shot than I would Sandy.
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Old 07-18-2007, 03:11 AM   #20
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I can't see a featherweight moving up to beat a prime Roberto Duran.

Maybe Henry but even he would have a hard time (well who won't ?) and I don't give him the edge at lightweight.

I don't know, really.
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Old 07-18-2007, 03:41 AM   #21
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One person worth mentioning is Young Corbett II.

He could be a foil for Duran both stylisticaly and psychologicaly.

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Old 07-18-2007, 03:47 AM   #22
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This is what I would have said, if he hadn't said it.
So this thread was designed to pump up Pep? Is this a reaction to China_Chin_Joe's comments?
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Old 07-18-2007, 04:34 AM   #23
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Alexis Arguello is another close match, especially in so far as height and punching power goes. And he has great lightweight credentials to boot.
I like Arguello's chances at 135 lbs.

It's a pick'em fight imo. I dont think Duran ever faced a lightweight with the power that Arguello possesed.
......and Arguello had skill and stamina to go along with that power.

As was said, Pryor beat Arguello at 140 lbs, but when you look at even that fight, Pryor in great portions of that fight had to resort to being the boxer who backed up and used lateral movements.
Pryor was more unconventional and less predictable with his herky jerky type style and punching off the wrong foot at times.

I dont believe Duran would fight the way Pryor did to beffudle Arguello at times......Duran would use alot of defensive manuevers of course, but I dont think he'd take a backward step and use laterals the way Pryor did.

Arguello has a great chance, as great as any featherweight I could think of.
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:04 AM   #24
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So this thread was designed to pump up Pep? Is this a reaction to China_Chin_Joe's comments?
No; i've done quite a few of these "step up" threads.

I'm interested to see all the guys picking Saddler.
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:15 AM   #25
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Well, the best way to do this is to look at the style that gave Duran the most trouble. Obviously, Duran's worst nightmare throughout his entire career was Thomas Hearns, so it would be a featherweight who resembled him the most. The closest thing to that at featherweight IMO is Sandy Saddler. He was 5'-8", which is freakishly tall for a featherweight. He had a telephone poll-like reach, and tremendous power like Hearns, so if I were to pick a featherweight to beat Duran it would be Sandy Saddler. Now, whether he would beat Duran is another story.
Surely a lanky featherweight stepping up is competely differerent to Duran stepping up to to face a very tall middleweight, no featherweight could 'Hearns' Duran!
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Old 07-18-2007, 05:20 AM   #26
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Has a feather ever boxed who could deal with Duran at light?
I cant see it ,but the best chances might go to Mcgovern,Saldivar,Saddler,Arguello,and Griffo.Driscoll may have done well early but he lacked Peps elusive foot work so Duran would get inside his left sooner or later and maul him.
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Old 07-18-2007, 07:35 AM   #27
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i totally agree with that almost down to the bone he was quick was hard to hit great on the inside great on the outside was the same hieght and reach of duran that bothers me becuase duran may looked like slow and ponderous against speedstars but he was no fool and at lightwieght he was damn quick
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Old 07-18-2007, 07:39 AM   #28
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Henry Armstrong was the first name that came to me he was a beast at featherweight although Saddler has a good chance too great power, chin and is as rough maybe even rougher then Duran.
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Old 07-18-2007, 07:54 AM   #29
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Whitaker is a better bet than Arguello.
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:06 AM   #30
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Maybe Pep.
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