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Old 05-17-2008, 06:06 PM   #31
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at this time RJJ lost by KO to Pavlik..
Prime RJJ win UD against Pavlik
Prime RJJ win UD against Calzaghe too
Pavlik would absolutely certainly not last 12 against a prime RJJ, certainly not.

The others I agree with
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Old 05-17-2008, 06:06 PM   #32
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Pavlik's chin isn't china. He gets hit a lot, can be hurt, but has shown great recuperative abilities. His chin is good with all things considered.
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Old 05-17-2008, 06:06 PM   #33
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Actually, he would be close to the truth if he was saying they would beat Pavlik.
I dont see that happening but, thats an interesting topic. I smell a new thread coming on
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Old 05-17-2008, 06:07 PM   #34
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Pavlik's chin isn't china. He gets hit a lot, can be hurt, but has shown great recuperative abilities. His chin is good with all things considered.

There we go, I feel the same way
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yeah he would, a couple of fighter made it through
Certainly not when you consider this clash of styles. RJJ is horrible for him. RJJ's speed and incredible freakish athleticism, throwing hurtful shots from all angles against Pavlik's defence, can you imagine it?

No chance.
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Old 05-17-2008, 06:11 PM   #36
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Certainly not when you consider this clash of styles. RJJ is horrible for him. RJJ's speed and incredible freakish athleticism, throwing hurtful shots from all angles against Pavlik's defence, can you imagine it?

No chance.
Current Jones or prime Jones?
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Old 05-17-2008, 06:12 PM   #37
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Pavlik's chin isn't china. He gets hit a lot, can be hurt, but has shown great recuperative abilities. His chin is good with all things considered.
But Taylor hits like a girl, all things considered...
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Old 05-17-2008, 06:13 PM   #38
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Eric Lucas who had a defense normal, made it through of 12 rounds before his corner throw the towel..
yes its ****in possible
and I know Lucas better than 99 percent of the people here
Pavlik would last the 12
He still didn't last 12 rounds, did he?

And Lucas is a different fighter. His defence isn't outstanding, but he isn't as aggressive walking forward like Pavlik does. The styles clash isn't as bad for Lucas, in terms of getting knocked out.
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Current Jones or prime Jones?
Prime obviously
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Eric Lucas who had a defense normal, made it through of 12 rounds before his corner throw the towel..
yes its ****in possible
and I know Lucas better than 99 percent of the people here
Pavlik would last the 12
Eric Lucas was a fair fighter with a good chin, quite a different story. I actually count the Lucas win for Roy in his full list because Lucas went on to be a decent contender at SMW.

Lucas chin>Pavlik's soft jaw.
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Prime obviously
Okay, yeah terrible matchup for Pavlik and just about anybody.
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Old 05-17-2008, 06:17 PM   #42
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pavlik's chin is fine for me so far.
no-one's talking about cotto's chin all that much and yet there are similarities between the cotto - torres fight and the first taylor - pavlik one.

cotto could easily have been called chinny after that because, even though weight issues were said to be the cause, because who would have argued if the ref had stopped the fight in round 2 and awarded the fight to torres?

not me.
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But Taylor hits like a girl, all things considered...
I've seen Pavlik take some big shots from Zuniga and Miranda. I'm not going to claim his chin is iron or rock solid by any means, but it's good, nothing more. A guy with a pure glass chin would be knocked out by some of the shots he's been hit with.

And the shot with Taylor was an equilibrium thing. Affected his balance, his legs got shaky, and Taylor followed up with 18 consecutive punches without a shot in return. But this could potentially come into play with Abraham because Abraham throws wide punches that end up on the side of the head, and he carries significantly more power than Taylor.
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Old 05-17-2008, 06:20 PM   #44
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Abraham throws wide punches that end up on the side of the head, and he carries significantly more power than Taylor.
perhaps but that could also work in pavlik's favour as it did against miranda, who is also a wide puncher.
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Old 05-17-2008, 07:57 PM   #45
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Pavlik gets beat by EVERY ONE.

Calderon KO 1 Pavlik.
I might as well drive over to the gym with a feather......
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