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Old 07-18-2007, 06:21 PM   #31
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Zab is faster, more agile, and better defensively than PW. Margarito has trouble with fighters that move around, and are elusive. If Zab just sticks and moves he can win the fight rather easily. Zab can beat Margorito to the punch all night
That's the problem with Zab. He beats just about everyone one to the punch, but just stops punching and turns into a shell after 4 rounds.

Waste of talent.

My pick is Margaret TKO 10.
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:26 PM   #32
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zab could have success in the early rounds, by firing straight shots beating wide throwing margo to the punch. margos got a solid chin though and his pressure would probably get to zab who has a propensity to fold in the later rounds.
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:37 PM   #33
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Please, PLEASE make this fight happen. Chicken Dance II, for sure.

Margarito would TOTALLY DESTROY Judah, completely walk through him.

I would love to see this fight.
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:49 PM   #34
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Your just a blind hater. . . proven by dumb statements


- Zab would beat AM EASY
- Zab hits WAY harder than PW
- Zab is not a front runner



You know, you can pick Zab to win without making dumb statements.
So you're saying Zab doesn't hit a lot harder than Williams?


Anyway, Judah-Margarito would be a pick em fight. I'd say Judah early or Marg mid to late. People look at Margarito as some kind of unshakable force. I say if Clottey can rock Marg with counter right hands, Judah can seriously hurt him with that straight left.
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:57 PM   #35
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:00 PM   #36
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Zab is faster, more agile, and better defensively than PW. Margarito has trouble with fighters that move around, and are elusive. If Zab just sticks and moves he can win the fight rather easily. Zab can beat Margorito to the punch all night
He was also faster, more agile, and better defensivley then Baldomir. And faster and more agile then Cotto. You seem to be leaving toughness both physically and mentally, which Zab severly lacks. Zab isn't a stick & mover fighter, nor is he one to stick to a game plan for an entire fight.

Margarito my UD or late TKO.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:04 PM   #37
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Cotto is a way better pressure fighter than Margorito for one. Cotto has more speed, more power. Better footwork to trap zab in the corner. margo aint Cotto, so cant compare them. And Cotto isnt better than Zab. Zab has all the tools to beat Cotto, he jus desnt make any adjustments in his fights and that always costs him. Zab could have beaten Floyd, Cotto, baldomir. These are all fights he could have one. But lack of in fight adjustments always costs him.

If he coulda won them, he woulda won them. Sorry, Cotto is MUCH better then Zab.

There's no proof that he can even make adjustments. It's more like wishful thinking on your part.
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:49 PM   #38
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Your just a blind hater. . . proven by dumb statements


- Zab would beat AM EASY
- Zab hits WAY harder than PW
- Zab is not a front runner



You know, you can pick Zab to win without making dumb statements.
dumb statements or factual ones. PW dont hit as hard as Zab
Zab aint no front runner. Just b/c Floyd did what he had to do to slow him down to win the fight dont mean hes a front runner. The body shots took a toll on zab, and that can happen to any fighter, that doesnt make him a front runner. And for the last time Antonio Margarito is a BUM. He is trash, he dont got no boxing skill I dont see why people even mention him like he is an elite fighter. I dont care what he does, he aint nothin but a C class fighter. he has no skill. I dont kno why people cant see it. He lost to PW a B class fighter at best. Paul made a lot of mistakes that night. But Margarito was so damn limited that he couldnt do anything about it. Margo looked like trash that night. He lost fair and square, the fight wasnt even close. Cant understand why people think he has talent, dude has no jab, no speed, defense is suspect. He throws hook so wide, anyone can telegraph them. Like I cant see why you like him. And he has the nerve to say hes the most feared Welterweight. Paleeease. Do us all a favor and go back to the gym and learn the fundamentals first. Bum ass
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:52 PM   #39
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He was also faster, more agile, and better defensivley then Baldomir. And faster and more agile then Cotto. You seem to be leaving toughness both physically and mentally, which Zab severly lacks. Zab isn't a stick & mover fighter, nor is he one to stick to a game plan for an entire fight.

Margarito my UD or late TKO.
i agree with that, he has the advantages against a lot of fighters, he just need to change his corner to help with the toughness area mentally etc. If he had Manny as his trainer, I think you would see a different Zab Judah IMO
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:56 PM   #40
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i agree with that, he has the advantages against a lot of fighters, he just need to change his corner to help with the toughness area mentally etc. If he had Manny as his trainer, I think you would see a different Zab Judah IMO
A changed corner don't mean shit when you're hit hard on the button and you go into survival mode or retreat.

It doesn't matter how many advantages you have over other fighters. ONly two things matter in a fight, can you take the other guys punch, or can he take yours.
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:59 PM   #41
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A changed corner don't mean shit when you're hit hard on the button and you go into survival mode or retreat.

It doesn't matter how many advantages you have over other fighters. ONly two things matter in a fight, can you take the other guys punch, or can he take yours.
Zab took a lot of punches from Cotto, and still went on, he showed a lot of heart in that fight. I personally think the low blows did affect him to some degree. i dont care, if you get hit in the nuts 2wice, and he took hard shots down there. Without gettin adequate time to rest. Its going to affect you one way or another
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:01 AM   #42
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Zab took a lot of punches from Cotto, and still went on, he showed a lot of heart in that fight. I personally think the low blows did affect him to some degree. i dont care, if you get hit in the nuts 2wice, and he took hard shots down there. Without gettin adequate time to rest. Its going to affect you one way or another

I never liked Zab that much, and I never hid that fact. But he showed great heart and never quit. He shoulda took more time on the nutshots if it hurt so much. Wile I do think they hurt, I don't believe they affected the outcome. Cotto was just too relentless, determined, and strong.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:03 AM   #43
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I never liked Zab that much, and I never hid that fact. But he showed great heart and never quit. He shoulda took more time on the nutshots if it hurt so much. Wile I do think they hurt, I don't believe they affected the outcome. Cotto was just too relentless, determined, and strong.
I like Zab, he has a lot of natural talent that I think with the right trainers he can perfect and be a great fighter. He needs a new trainer period
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Old 07-19-2007, 01:17 AM   #44
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Margarito by KO. Judah is gonna be damaged goods now that Cotto has roughed him up.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:34 PM   #45
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Margarito KO whodah any day of the week, Williams got away because he is not areal WW, cm on he is 6,2 and he was 170 pounds, last Saturday
Williams is a freak that will disappear soon.
and neither is Margorito, MArgo walks around at 180 pounds. So come with another xcuse. Margo cant box period. He got no skill
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