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Old 05-22-2008, 09:14 AM   #31
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How would you rate Robinson if Maxim had flattened him like that? Would you hold it against him or dismiss it?
I get your point , i do, but its all subjective, i dont think Duran was still as good when he fought Hearns as what Robinson was when he took on Maxim. Robinson was still showing flashes of that old brilliance on a regular basis at that point. Maxim was not the LHW that as what Hearns was at 154 though, i think Hearns was number 1 or 2 at 154, and a tremendous puncher which Maxim wasnt. So it is subjective
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:12 AM   #32
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1) Ali
2) SRR
3) Graeb
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Old 05-22-2008, 10:15 AM   #33
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1) Ali
2) SRR
3) Graeb
I'm a BIG Ali fan, but why him at nr. 1? Why do you rank him above SRR, who I think is pretty uncontested at nr. 1?
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Old 05-22-2008, 05:39 PM   #34
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BIG DEE HERE= No.1 Harry Greb
No.2 Sam Langford
No.3 tie Henry Armstrong , Ray Robinson.
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:17 PM   #35
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1) Robby. Who am I to disagree with Hank? Beyond that, I assume we have all finally had a chance to watch footage of Ray's dominant welterweight finale with Fusari (a 15 round virtual shutout over a 147 pound contender who was rugged enough at that weight to have secured a scorecard win over Graziano entering the tenth and final round).

2) Duran. LW Roberto has been my number two for a long time now, but I'm starting to waver a bit after reviewing the difficulties he had with the Viruet boys. However, I'm still standing by him pending further evaluation.

3) Gans. Langford rated The Old Master as the best he ever witnessed, a pretty good reference to boast about.

4) Greb. Harry was past his prime when he squared off with Walker, who hadn't yet reached the peak I believe he achieved when he beat up Tommy Milligan in 1927. (Walker/Milligan is currently on youtube by the way.) Nonetheless, the Windmill soundly outscored the Toy Bulldog, an outcome with crucial ramifications for an all time pound for pound listing.

5) Pep. Staggering pre plane crash record at 126.

6) Langford. Been studying footage of the peak version of Sammy against Fireman Flynn and Bill Lang today, so this feels pretty comfortable right now.

7) Burley. I reviewed the youtube footage of Charley a few times over the past week, and he was a remarkable performer at 28. Oakland Billy Smith retained his California LHW Title only because he took on Burley in a ten rounder, instead of over 12. Smith couldn't do a thing with him. Even from long range, Burley outjabbed and outboxed Smith badly.
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:34 PM   #36
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Nope P4P. Not as if there's gulfs in it or anything, afterall Sardu has Duran at #3.

Pound for pound, Langford has more great wins in more divisions! He started at around 140 and has wins over truely great Heavyweights! A case exsists for having Charles above Frazier at LHW, certainly, but pound for pound I don't see what the defence can be to be honest with you friend.
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Old 05-22-2008, 07:47 PM   #37
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1. Henry Armstrong
2. Harry Greb
3. Ray Robinson
4. Benny Leonard
5. Ezzard Charles
6. Willie Pep
7. Roberto Duran
8. Archie Moore
9. Joe Gans
10. Barney Ross

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Old 05-22-2008, 08:01 PM   #40
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Roy Jones Junior
Joe Calzaghe
Whitaker
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Old 05-22-2008, 08:07 PM   #41
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Joe Calzaghe
Whitaker

No Carl Froch?
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Old 05-22-2008, 08:08 PM   #42
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I didn't really like the album that song came from.
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No Carl Froch?
I consider the other lists in this thread enraging. look at the pre 1960s bias. Just look at it. Such bias is inexcusable.

The should be no fighters who fought excluisively before the 1990s being named here.
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Old 05-22-2008, 08:12 PM   #44
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I consider the other lists in this thread enraging. look at the pre 1960s bias. Just look at it. Such bias is inexcusable.

The should be no fighters from before the 1990s being named here.
So Hearns, Leonard, Duran, etc were not on par with guys like Tszyu?
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Old 05-22-2008, 08:15 PM   #45
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I consider the other lists in this thread enraging. look at the pre 1960s bias. Just look at it. Such bias is inexcusable.

The should be no fighters from before the 1990s being named here.
You're silly.
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