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Old 07-18-2007, 11:41 PM   #1
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Default Can any of today's guys become the best 147 of all time?

or at least # 2 behind SRR?

147 is as stacked as it's ever been. Suppose Cotto were to fight and beat DLH, Mosley, Floyd, Williams, Margarito, Cintron, Clotty and Collazo. I know this is a huge if but lets suppose it were to happen or interchange some names with Floyd or williams beating all those other guys.

I am not as knowledgable as some of you other guys in terms of history but I would think that would be an ATG 147 resume no?
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:55 PM   #2
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or at least # 2 behind SRR?

147 is as stacked as it's ever been. Suppose Cotto were to fight and beat DLH, Mosley, Floyd, Williams, Margarito, Cintron, Clotty and Collazo. I know this is a huge if but lets suppose it were to happen or interchange some names with Floyd or williams beating all those other guys.

I am not as knowledgable as some of you other guys in terms of history but I would think that would be an ATG 147 resume no?
That's one hell of a task even for superman, so yes he would go right behind SRR as a 47lbs maybe even #1

Huge IF..


But it can happen

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Old 07-18-2007, 11:56 PM   #3
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Default Re: Can any of today's guys become the best 147 of all time?

i believe if any guy from 147 beat all the other competition, an argument could be made for them to be a top 5 ATG welterweight. right now i believe cotto, mosley, hatton and mayweather have the potential to be an ATG.
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:57 PM   #4
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Default Re: Can any of today's guys become the best 147 of all time?

Not a chance. We've seen the best. It won't get better.
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:58 PM   #5
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i believe if any guy from 147 beat all the other competition, an argument could be made for them to be a top 5 ATG welterweight. right now i believe cotto, mosley, hatton and mayweather have the potential to be an ATG.
I's liketadid what you said too buddy
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:59 PM   #6
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:02 AM   #7
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Not a chance. We've seen the best. It won't get better.
Please do tell

SRR yes but after that it seems 147lbs has been so staked it has made it difficult to get all the top fighters in the ring to see who still stands once the dust is clear. I have yet to see a fighter beat each and every top WW in their respective eras. Have you?

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Old 07-19-2007, 12:03 AM   #8
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or at least # 2 behind SRR?

147 is as stacked as it's ever been. Suppose Cotto were to fight and beat DLH, Mosley, Floyd, Williams, Margarito, Cintron, Clotty and Collazo. I know this is a huge if but lets suppose it were to happen or interchange some names with Floyd or williams beating all those other guys.

I am not as knowledgable as some of you other guys in terms of history but I would think that would be an ATG 147 resume no?
That would be hard to ignore.
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Just busting your thunder sacs a little I had to deal with thousands of crying screaming women running down 42nd today so my compassion levels are a bit dry.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:04 AM   #10
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:12 AM   #11
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Perhaps the best way to phrase it would be that Cotto could put himself in the conversation.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:15 AM   #12
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or at least # 2 behind SRR?

147 is as stacked as it's ever been. Suppose Cotto were to fight and beat DLH, Mosley, Floyd, Williams, Margarito, Cintron, Clotty and Collazo. I know this is a huge if but lets suppose it were to happen or interchange some names with Floyd or williams beating all those other guys.

I am not as knowledgable as some of you other guys in terms of history but I would think that would be an ATG 147 resume no?
Keep in mind that the guy that is number 2 on most lists beat hearns, Duran, Hagler, Benitez dispite missing alot of his prime with the eye injury. Keep in mind that most of that work was done before Ray was 26 years old.

You would even have a hard time making a strong case for number three depending on were you have Armstrong, who I think is p4p number 2 all times, but not as high at welterweight.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:23 AM   #13
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or at least # 2 behind SRR?

147 is as stacked as it's ever been. Suppose Cotto were to fight and beat DLH, Mosley, Floyd, Williams, Margarito, Cintron, Clotty and Collazo. I know this is a huge if but lets suppose it were to happen or interchange some names with Floyd or williams beating all those other guys.

I am not as knowledgable as some of you other guys in terms of history but I would think that would be an ATG 147 resume no?

The only fighters that you mentioned i think who would have a chance as an ATG not the best of all time but a top 5 welterweight would be Cotto or Mayweather. Mosley is on his way out of the sport in another year or 2 and can't possibly beat all those you mentioned. Cintron,Collazo are good fighters but I don't see an ATG in either of them. Paul Williams I think is a good fighter but I think he will be picked apart by Mayweather or Cotto.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:28 AM   #14
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The only fighters that you mentioned i think who would have a chance as an ATG not the best of all time but a top 5 welterweight would be Cotto or Mayweather. Mosley is on his way out of the sport in another year or 2 and can't possibly beat all those you mentioned. Cintron,Collazo are good fighters but I don't see an ATG in either of them. Paul Williams I think is a good fighter but I think he will be picked apart by Mayweather or Cotto.
Oh I think that Shane right now has a better shot then both Floyd and Cotto. Keep in mind he already has some really big wins, and all it would take of him would be beatting Floyd and Cotton and maybe one other Cintron or Williams. that would put him about as high as any of these fighters can get.

And the reason that I think that the limit is capped is because some of there guys will be exposed as not great fighters. You have to beat all-timers to be all-timers. While i think that these guys are all very good fighters none of them are great fighters. Robinson and leonard beat all time greats top 20 fighters.
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Old 07-19-2007, 12:32 AM   #15
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If one person clears out the whole division I'd put them #2 behind SRR for sure.
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