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Old 05-31-2008, 11:58 AM   #16
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He shows good punch resistance in that round though, but he doesn't show any real mobility, does he? It's like he came ill prepared with the wrong fight plan...just found himself overwhelmed, as you say, by sheer intensity.
Fenech took mobile fighters such as Coffee and McCrory out into deep water then drowned them. He'd actually beat down Smart very very quickly.

Looks like we might have a future Fenech fan in the making. He was like a young Duran with a bit less skill.
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:04 PM   #17
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................My favorite Fenech fight was the Villasana match. He broke BOTH his hands in that one, but you'd never know it during the fight, just kept throwing and Villasana (an all-time great chin) just kept taking. I remember seeing Fenech literally sobbing with pain when they cut his gloves off. What a lion.
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:04 PM   #18
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Looks like we might have a future Fenech fan in the making. He was like a young Duran with a bit less skill.
Let's just say i'm having another long look.

"Duran with a BIT less skill" you say?

OK, so which fights represent him at his very best, for you?
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:11 PM   #19
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Let's just say i'm having another long look.

"Duran with a BIT less skill" you say?

OK, so which fights represent him at his very best, for you?
He himself nominates the Victor Callejas fight as his greatest win. As well his wins over McCrory, Coffee and especially Nelson I are great indicators. Duran had the skill on him but Fenech used more physicality and intensity. It's funny how the comentators bag him early vs Nelson when outskilled but soon change their tune as Fenech slowly overwhelmes him.
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:14 PM   #20
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He himself nominates the Victor Callejas fight as his greatest win. As well his wins over McCrory, Coffee and especially Nelson I are great indicators. Duran had the skill on him but Fenech used more physicality and intensity. It's funny how the comentators bag him early vs Nelson when outskilled but soon change their tune as Fenech slowly overwhelmes him.
Familiar with the Nelson fight, but i've never seen Callejas or Villasana as nominated by Sal, so i'll look into these two I reckon.

You're on the record as having Fenech down as having "more physicality and intensity" than lightweight Duran?
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:22 PM   #21
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Familiar with the Nelson fight, but i've never seen Callejas or Villasana as nominated by Sal, so i'll look into these two I reckon.

You're on the record as having Fenech down as having "more physicality and intensity" than lightweight Duran?


..............It sounds strange to say, but I'd agree with that statement. That was borne of necessity of course, as Duran could and did often box at a distance. Fenech had no such technical skills, and so his bread and butter was getting on top of his oppoenent and smothering him with an avalanche of punches.
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:24 PM   #22
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You're on the record as having Fenech down as having "more physicality and intensity" than lightweight Duran?
Oh yes indeed. Fenech was a physical monster. His strength per weight was extraordinary and he put on incredible amounts of weight between the weigh in and actual bout.
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..............It sounds strange to say, but I'd agree with that statement. That was borne of necessity of course, as Duran could and did often box at a distance. Fenech had no such technical skills, and so his bread and butter was getting on top of his oppoenent and smothering him with an avalanche of punches.
Exactly. I'm glad to have such an esteemed observer agree.
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:26 PM   #24
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He's a fun fighter. But horrible.
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He's a fun fighter. But horrible.
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the thai beat a former world champion over ten rounds in his pro deb!!

talk about tough matchmaking...
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Horrible - like, pound for pound one of the last guys you would ever want to see in the other corner.
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Horrible - like, pound for pound one of the last guys you would ever want to see in the other corner.


............Honestly, McGrain, the man just shit his pants over there.
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