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Old 07-19-2007, 10:05 PM   #1
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Could Ali stand the punch power of Marciano and who would've won this epic battle personally I'm a Marciano fan so I'd go for Marciano but tell me what you think
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:16 PM   #2
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The heavyweight version of Baldomir vs. Mayweather Jr.

Marciano is greater than Baldomir, and Mayweather hasn't proven himself to be as great as Ali. Their fight just came to mind when I saw the title of this thread. I'll let you decide who plays which role.
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:19 PM   #3
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ali with ease
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:57 PM   #4
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marciano i got s to go with marciano
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:38 PM   #5
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I know that Ali is considered to be immortal and invincible on here, but Marciano would be 50/50 in this.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:49 PM   #6
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I think Marciano is a 50 50, I can see Marciano out swarming Ali like the Rock did to Charles(And Fraizer did to Ali in there first historic class) Marciano DOES have the style to trouble Ali, and Ali's speed will cause problems for the Rock. Could go either way imo.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:55 PM   #7
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I think Charles was the better tact boxer than Ali. Ali though great had some many flaws with his style. His speed made up for it. Charles if we take weight out of the reason was a BETTER boxer than Ali. Charles could hit to both the body and hand and had a fine jab, good not great chin, and speed to match. Charles pound for pound has beating more HOFER's than Ali, like Burley, Moore, Walcott and others. Over all I see a good reason in ranking Charles over Ali pound for pound.
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Old 07-20-2007, 12:02 AM   #8
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Well at heavyweight Ali beat Foreman, Fraizer, and perhaps Liston, guys that are greats. And great champions. Ali had the bigger fights at heavyweight. But Charles was a better boxer in regards to skill.
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Old 07-20-2007, 12:06 AM   #9
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Well they both fought RJJ, Charles would have a major Weight problem vs Ali. Also Charles and Ali never fought, so unlike the RJJ comparsions, we never know What would happen in Charles vs Ali. Perhaps Charles could beat Ali in a series of fights. We never know. Charles was that good.
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Old 07-20-2007, 12:15 AM   #10
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Could Ali stand the punch power of Marciano and who would've won this epic battle personally I'm a Marciano fan so I'd go for Marciano but tell me what you think
Marciano´s power is overrated.

Ali fought bigger punchers with better skills than Marciano.
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Old 07-20-2007, 12:19 AM   #11
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Work rate and tenacity would be the variables that Marciano is throwing at Ali. Personally I think Marciano gets cut to shit, shaken by stinging counters, and stopped in 8.
The last sentence there is wrong, i corrected it.
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Old 07-20-2007, 02:00 AM   #12
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Look, I've seen Charles big fights. I know he's better then his record, and I know I'll look like some boxrec ranger here, but no man who lost 25 times beats the GOAT, not giving up weight and size. Don't build Charles into something he isn't.
Spinks lost about 20 and he beat Ali.
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Old 07-20-2007, 02:02 AM   #13
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The cut thing is over rated imo. Marciano was only cut badly in 3 or 4 fights, and one 1 time was it close to stop the fight (Charles 2) Out of 49 fights he was not cut that often.
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Old 07-20-2007, 02:08 AM   #14
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nope, Spinks did pretty poorly after he beat Ali.
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Old 07-20-2007, 03:29 AM   #15
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Tough fight for both men. This is one of those true dream matchups.

Marciano was so unorthodox and wild at times I sometimes chuckle as he swings for the fences, but goddamn it this guy was like a pit bull that just came at you non-stop. It was his very unorthodoxy (is there such a word?) that made him hard to nail consistently. Marciano wasn't exactly Pernell Whitaker defensively, but he was deceptively tough to hit consistently.

What's more, Ali lacked the power to keep the Rock off him. I know many think Ali would just dance circles around Marciano and make him look foolish, but I don't think that would be the case. Marciano was pretty good closing the distance, and he often threw punches from strange angles, sometimes leaping at an opponent to land a shot. In close, he'd just be chucking bombs from all directions, to both head and body.
Really, I'm awed at how many power punches he could throw in close. Every one had knockout written on it. His stamina must have been off the charts.

Ali has in his favour almost abnormal toughness. It was surreal how many bodyshots and left hooks to the head Frazier hit him with, and how Ali was able to come back, fighting hard. His accuracy and speed would be a factor, and I think that Marciano's propensity to get sliced open counts heavily against him, because Ali had those slashing jabs and right hands.

I see a to-and-fro battle that is fought at a blistering pace. It could be another FOTC or Thrilla In Manilla. The winner? I would pick Ali - just - but he'd want no part of Marciano again.
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