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Old 06-11-2008, 07:28 AM   #1
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Default Who were the best 270+ pound fighters of all time?

Whether they were fat, or huge, we have not seen too many ranked 270+-pound fighters. Who can name 10 good ones?
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Old 06-11-2008, 07:55 AM   #2
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Nicolay Valuev is one of the best, he is well beyond 270 pounds as well
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Old 06-11-2008, 10:07 AM   #3
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Primo Carnera fought over 270 lbs a few times, didn't he? I think he was much maligned, partly due to racial prejudice, partly due to mob connections, partly because of his ugly style, and partly because the idea of a heavyweight that big was inherently ridiculous for many old-timers. "How could he possibly move and box for 20 rounds?", they must have asked themselves.

Valuev is a level down from Carnera, but still is decent. Chagaev and Ruiz exposed his weakness to short (by modern standards) boxers with decent foot-movement, but I think anyone looking to trade with Valuev is getting into a lot of trouble. It's not that he's a big puncher, but it's his durability and strength which has made him so effective. His work ethic helps as well, which is why he's able to have operational stamina despite his bulk.

At another level down and a very different build, we find Danny Williams. At his best I'd say he was a legitimate top 15 boxer (maybe even top 10) and was always a game, dangerous opponent. As he showed in his last fight, even past his prime, underprepared and with everything against him he can turn in a fearsome performance. He's one of the bravest heavyweights we've seen in recent years, whether it was fighting on his way to a win over Mark Potter despite his shoulder hanging well out of its socket (to the point where his hand was near his ankle) or being seemingly impossible to keep down against Vitali Klitschko. He kept off the butterflies to beat a still-feared Tyson when no-one gave him a chance and won one of the most brutal British heavyweight title fights in living memory against Matt Skelton.

Beyond that, the only boxers I can think of to be over 270 lbs are washed up older boxers (like Rid**** Bowe), fringe contenders (Craig Payne, Sonny Barch) or freak shows (Eric "Butterbean" Esch).
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At another level down and a very different build, we find Danny Williams. ).
Danny's fat ass should of stayed from 220-230 though
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Old 06-11-2008, 10:21 AM   #6
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Lets be honest we have: Old Shannon Briggs, McCline, Valuev, fat Danny WIlliams and Carnera. Nothing to write home about
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Leroy Jones wasn't too bad, losing to Larry Holmes in a title bid and beating Mike Weaver along the way. He didn't weight consistently above 270 though, although he did exceed the weight a few times.

Ewart Potgieter was over 7' tall and weighed 320 odd pounds. He wasn't too shabby but he was certainly no world beater. He lost rather embarrasingly to a journeyman called John Holman who was over 100 lbs. lighter.

Frankly, the pickings are rather slim...Shannon Briggs sucked at 270.
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He lost rather embarrasingly to a journeyman called John Holman who was over 100 lbs. lighter.
Journeyman? John Holman was a consistent top 10 contender throughout the 1950s, in fact according to some of my articles the Marciano Camp and Holman were in negotiations for a world title shot in 1956 for marcianos 50th fight. Holman at the time was rated 4th. I have Holman on film vs E charles, Holman had skills. Holman beat a lot of good fighters, he was certainly not a journeyman. He was always fighting tough competition. Anyway thats off topic, but I thought I should respond.


I think a Leroo Jones is a bit overlooked, he beat mike weaver easier than holmes did

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Lets be honest we have: Old Shannon Briggs, McCline, Valuev, fat Danny WIlliams and Carnera. Nothing to write home about
There is one 270+ pound fighter to keep an eye on. His name is Alexander Ustinov. I think has a chance to be as good or perhaps better than anyone on this list. Ustinov was something like 20-1 in k-1 fighting ( loss was on points ) and is 10-0 8Ko's as a pro boxer. He has some skills, is huge, has no fear, and hits hard. He's well over 270.

Antoher guy who was not mentioned is Tye Fields. I think he's a fraud.
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Kevin Mcbride. Watch out, hes back.
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Journeyman? John Holman was a consistent top 10 contender throughout the 1950s, in fact according to some of my articles the Marciano Camp and Holman were in negotiations for a world title shot in 1956 for marcianos 50th fight. Holman at the time was rated 4th. I have Holman on film vs E charles, Holman had skills. Holman beat a lot of good fighters, he was certainly not a journeyman. He was always fighting tough competition. Anyway thats off topic, but I thought I should respond.
In that case, I apologise. I had no idea Holman was a good fighter.
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Old 06-12-2008, 05:42 AM   #12
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Danny's fat ass should of stayed from 220-230 though
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Old 06-12-2008, 05:44 AM   #13
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There is one 270+ pound fighter to keep an eye on. His name is Alexander Ustinov. I think has a chance to be as good or perhaps better than anyone on this list. Ustinov was something like 20-1 in k-1 fighting ( loss was on points ) and is 10-0 8Ko's as a pro boxer. He has some skills, is huge, has no fear, and hits hard. He's well over 270.
I've heard about him as well. Have you ever seen him? How do his defence , speed and skills in general look?
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I've heard about him as well. Have you ever seen him? How do his defence , speed and skills in general look?
Ustinov is one of those fighters with a real presense in the ring. He's close to 6'9" tall. He's in there to fight, shows little fear, and has heavy hands. His defense is fair. His hand speed is good, but not great. His skills are above average. But what makes him dangerous is heavy hands, a proven chin in K-1, and a agressive style. In many ways he is a more skilled version of Virchis, though he going to need to prove it on the top level.

Ustinov needs to lose about 30 pounds. He's best at 270, not 300.

Judge for yourself.

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Old 06-12-2008, 07:32 AM   #15
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I'd seen that before and didnt really take much from it (one round against a limited fighter). Is that the way he fights normally? He was standing very square on and punches were not coming back to his chin. If he fights like that all the time he will get KO'd at some point. If he was just being lazy against poor opposition then fiar enough I suppose
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