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Old 06-23-2008, 11:52 AM   #16
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Yes I think he can it will be a terrific fight. especially after the borefest klitchko was in last time. I believe their could be a upset because haye as the speed and power to cause all the top heavyweights fits.
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Old 06-25-2008, 01:29 AM   #17
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Vlad will knock Haye out easily, no contest.
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Old 06-25-2008, 03:38 PM   #18
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You would of said the same about sanders or brewster as well though farm and we all know what happened there. Wlad will fight scared against a banger like haye, who has the speed and power to beat him. Not that i think he will, but it isnt a walk in the park.

Either man can win
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Old 06-25-2008, 03:51 PM   #19
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Just 3 words: Talk is cheap





No way the haymaker can beat Wlad Klitschko. Perhaps in 5 or 6 years, but not at the moment. Wlad in 4. And by the way - Vitali will also come back and if Haye would've a fight against him...game over in 3.
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Old 06-26-2008, 02:07 AM   #20
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I recently saw Haye's fight against Mock and let me tell you, his punch resistance doesnt look too good. This guy has been seriously hurt against former SMWs and u got people saying he's gonna walk right through wlad.

He's been put down or hurt by guys like Mock, Thompson, Fragomeni, and Mormeck. Seems difficult to excuse every instance. Wlad has been put down but by legit HEAVYWEIGHTS. Neither has very good punch resistance but Wlad has at least taken big power shots from massive hws.

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i'll buy his punch resistance can improve with the weight but he's gonna have a shaky chin at hw no matter what. I really don't think he can take more than a couple of wlad's straight right hands. Now Haye, has excellent power and speed himself but can he effectively deliver on Kiltschko?

I dont think so and here's why. Haye fights very low. Even now, he leans forward almost sticking his face out and keeps his left hand by his waist most of the time. He has a decent jab but seems to like to lead with power shots. On the otherhand, Wlad fights very tall behind a shotgun jab and utilizes lots of foot movement. Haye is in the far more vulnerable position.

Can Haye make this up with his handspeed. Possibly but consider Wlad's for a second. His handspeed is excellent for a HW. Just look at the tape. His jab, right-cross has got to be one of the fastest deliveries in the higher weights.

When people say it's a matter of who lands first, i agree. But it will be Wlad who will land first for the above mentioned reasons. Haye's only chance imo is to land something big in the first couple of rounds. After that, it turns into a boxing contest and he will get lit up. I would like to here Haye's suppoters respond especially about his punch susceptibility due to his stance....

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Old 06-26-2008, 07:57 AM   #21
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No way the haymaker can beat Wlad Klitschko. Perhaps in 5 or 6 years, but not at the moment. Wlad in 4. And by the way - Vitali will also come back and if Haye would've a fight against him...game over in 3.
vitali hasn't fought in what, 4 years?

what the **** makes you think he can just come back and start knocking people over again? that is of course providing he isn't KO'd by his training camp again.
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Old 06-26-2008, 08:45 AM   #22
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Haye hasn't even fought the best at Cruiserweight, what would make anyone think he can just step up and beat any top level HW much less Wlad?
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Old 06-29-2008, 08:12 PM   #23
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well, whom else shall he beat at CW? vs. steve cunningham could be an interesting fight
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Old 06-30-2008, 11:16 AM   #24
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its a fight where who lands first. Haye got speed and power to hurt klitscho, and klitscho as we know has a glass chin, haye could also lose by KO on the other hand.
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Old 06-30-2008, 12:40 PM   #25
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That's the first time I've seen Haye vs. Mock and Haye looked terrible. Practically no defense whatsover. He was falling all over the place

Haye's only chance vs. Klitschko is ifhe brings a friend or 2
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Old 06-30-2008, 05:45 PM   #26
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I think that Haye would get koŽd by wlad. Haye is always exposed to get hit.
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Old 06-30-2008, 07:14 PM   #27
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Haye does not need the number 1 HW to be KOed. He is not a Superman ala prime Roy Jones, he will have to eat punches and I don't think he has the chin for that at HW.
He was floored by Mock, stopped by the cat, floored by a "0 stamina" version of Mormeck... The Mormeck fight is a good indication, it's an excellent victory but Haye was unable to dominate on skills : in the end he proved he had better power/condition/will but before that he was dominated and close of being KOed in the 4th... I don't imagine guys like RJJ, Toney, Klitschko etc. having problems in their primes against a faded Mormeck. Haye has still MUCH to prove. Perhaps he will be ready in a couple of years but he should build his career step by step at HW.
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Old 06-30-2008, 07:18 PM   #28
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Perhaps he will be ready in a couple of years but he should build his career step by step at HW.




Thats correct. Haye should make 5-7 Fight until he goes for a belt. He should get used to his new weight and to the power of HW punches.
Holyfield also made some tune up fights.
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Old 07-01-2008, 01:37 AM   #29
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Vlad will put Haye into the hospital or morgue.
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Old 07-01-2008, 09:48 AM   #30
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Haye hasn't even fought the best at Cruiserweight, what would make anyone think he can just step up and beat any top level HW much less Wlad?
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