Hopkins Wright, where dose the winner stand historicaly?

janitor · 07-21-2007, 03:03 PM

To what extent is the winners legacy enhanced?

Vanboxingfan · 07-21-2007, 03:20 PM

Personally I think the win would mean a lot more for Winky than Hopkins. Hopkins to me rose a couple of notches with his win over Tarver, but beating the likes of ODH and Winky to me are less impressive, given the size differences. For me I don't really see any upside for a Hop win, only downside if he losses, which was the exact opposite in the Tarver fight, where he had no downside if he lost and only upside by winning.

Jose FM · 07-21-2007, 03:27 PM

Both greatly, and a loss wont hurt Hopkins as much as Wright but not badly.

Mantequilla · 07-21-2007, 05:05 PM

Hopkins legacy is already sealed.

He's way past his prime now and if Wright loses it likely just says more about him than any sudden new-found prowess on Hops part.

sweet_scientist · 07-21-2007, 09:04 PM

Let's wait and see how each man looks first.

If either man looks bad, nothing in their legacies will be enhanced.

I'm actually expecting both guys to look bad, but funnily enough that may make for a more interesting fight, as there should be more openings for both to exploit.

Senya13 · 07-22-2007, 06:16 AM

Well, B-Hop has proven he's a better more clever and technically efficient fighter. Wright couldn't adjust to his tactics, and just kept wasting his time in close, where he needed to create space between himself and Hop. Taylor and DLH got the space they needed (fighting from distance), Wright didn't.

TBooze · 07-22-2007, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by janitor

To what extent is the winners legacy enhanced?

I would say Hopkins is knocking on the door of Greatness. Give it 15/20 years and I think we will get a definitive answer as to if he is Great.

My dinner with Conteh · 07-22-2007, 06:43 AM

His two losses to Taylor still look bad.

TBooze · 07-22-2007, 06:49 AM

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His two losses to Taylor still look bad.

Hence the reason you need 20 years or so before you can judge. Taylor may become a phenom himself (unlikely I know); and if Taylor did, the close defeats would not seem so bad...

My dinner with Conteh · 07-22-2007, 06:56 AM

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Hence the reason you need 20 years or so before you can judge. Taylor may become a phenom himself (unlikely I know); and if Taylor did, the close defeats would not seem so bad...

Fair enough. But Taylor's doesn't have the look of an all-time great, at least not yet.

Stewbear · 07-22-2007, 07:13 AM

Who is the most boring fighter of all time?

achillesthegreat · 07-22-2007, 07:15 AM

Hopkins just beat a top 5 P4P fighter. It doesn't what goes down, he left with the W. When you are 42 years old and arguably the best P4P fighter in the world, you are pretty much one of the baddest men on the planet.

Hopkins is forging a legacy that will put him down as one of the very greatest fighters boxing has ever seen.

Stewbear · 07-22-2007, 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by achillesthegreat

Hopkins just beat a top 5 P4P fighter. It doesn't what goes down, he left with the W. When you are 42 years old and arguably the best P4P fighter in the world, you are pretty much one of the baddest men on the planet.

Hopkins is forging a legacy that will put him down as one of the very greatest fighters boxing has ever seen.

Only names Trinidad, Oscar and Winky all naturally smaller than him.

JohnThomas1 · 07-22-2007, 07:21 AM

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I would say Hopkins is knocking on the door of Greatness. Give it 15/20 years and I think we will get a definitive answer as to if he is Great.

TBooze · 07-22-2007, 07:23 AM

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Vanboxingfan Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Vancouver Posts: 3,063 vCash: 1000	Re: Hopkins Wright, where dose the winner stand historicaly? Personally I think the win would mean a lot more for Winky than Hopkins. Hopkins to me rose a couple of notches with his win over Tarver, but beating the likes of ODH and Winky to me are less impressive, given the size differences. For me I don't really see any upside for a Hop win, only downside if he losses, which was the exact opposite in the Tarver fight, where he had no downside if he lost and only upside by winning.
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Jose FM Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wash-Heights, NYC Posts: 1,563 vCash: 1000	Re: Hopkins Wright, where dose the winner stand historicaly? Both greatly, and a loss wont hurt Hopkins as much as Wright but not badly.
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Mantequilla Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,495 vCash: 1000	Re: Hopkins Wright, where dose the winner stand historicaly? Hopkins legacy is already sealed. He's way past his prime now and if Wright loses it likely just says more about him than any sudden new-found prowess on Hops part.
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sweet_scientist Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,301 vCash: 1000	Re: Hopkins Wright, where dose the winner stand historicaly? Let's wait and see how each man looks first. If either man looks bad, nothing in their legacies will be enhanced. I'm actually expecting both guys to look bad, but funnily enough that may make for a more interesting fight, as there should be more openings for both to exploit.
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Senya13 Belt holder ESB Addict Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Russia Posts: 3,300 vCash: 1210	Re: Hopkins Wright, where dose the winner stand historicaly? Well, B-Hop has proven he's a better more clever and technically efficient fighter. Wright couldn't adjust to his tactics, and just kept wasting his time in close, where he needed to create space between himself and Hop. Taylor and DLH got the space they needed (fighting from distance), Wright didn't.
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My dinner with Conteh P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 21,599 vCash: 1000	Re: Hopkins Wright, where dose the winner stand historicaly? His two losses to Taylor still look bad.
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achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE East Side VIP Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,198 vCash: 1000	Re: Hopkins Wright, where dose the winner stand historicaly? Hopkins just beat a top 5 P4P fighter. It doesn't what goes down, he left with the W. When you are 42 years old and arguably the best P4P fighter in the world, you are pretty much one of the baddest men on the planet. Hopkins is forging a legacy that will put him down as one of the very greatest fighters boxing has ever seen.
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