Abraham Lincoln vs Teddy Roosevelt

Donut62 · 07-21-2007, 05:35 PM

Teddy was a brown belt in judo and ju-jitsu, Lincoln was a celebrated catch wrestler. Who wins in an mma bout?

cross_trainer · 07-21-2007, 05:43 PM

Teddy has the boxing experience, Lincoln the reach....are we talking prime-for-prime or during their time in office?

Lincoln is a slight favorite here. He has a championship of sorts in his past, and his lack of striking experience will be offset by his superior abilities inside and greater height. Jiujitsu will not be enough to save Teddy, especially if it's the variety he supposedly learned from John O'Brien.

Lincoln by submission...unless he practiced a variety of catch wrestling that does not include submissions (plausible, actually--unless it's the Lancashire variety, it would only have "falls"). If that is the case, then Teddy would either submit or KO Lincoln. The latter is more likely.

karmazon · 07-21-2007, 05:47 PM

I'm picking Roosevelt, Lincoln was skinny, Roosevelt most likely hits harder and he's just the kind of person that when he hits, he wants to take your head off, whereas Lincoln seems more of a gentleman fighter.

Beebs · 07-21-2007, 05:54 PM

I think I would take Lincoln, TR's ego would be his downfall.

Donut62 · 07-21-2007, 07:25 PM

Teddy can bang it out, and I think he can use his stout frame and judo experience to stay on his feet. Lincoln's no-gi grappling would give him an edge on the mat, with his reach he could ground and pound teddy easy from the gaurd. It's a tough fight. Probably the two presidents who would do best in fighting, no?

cross_trainer · 07-21-2007, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Donut62

Teddy can bang it out, and I think he can use his stout frame and judo experience to stay on his feet. Lincoln's no-gi grappling would give him an edge on the mat, with his reach he could ground and pound teddy easy from the gaurd. It's a tough fight. Probably the two presidents who would do best in fighting, no?

Bush clobbers Lincoln with a well-thrown baseball, only to be killed in a hail of bullets from T.R.'s elephant gun.

07-21-2007, 05:35 PM	#1
Donut62 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 727 vCash: 1000	Abraham Lincoln vs Teddy Roosevelt Teddy was a brown belt in judo and ju-jitsu, Lincoln was a celebrated catch wrestler. Who wins in an mma bout?
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07-21-2007, 05:43 PM	#2
cross_trainer Bergeron Avatar Club ESB Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,381 vCash: 1000	Re: Abraham Lincoln vs Teddy Roosevelt Teddy has the boxing experience, Lincoln the reach....are we talking prime-for-prime or during their time in office? Lincoln is a slight favorite here. He has a championship of sorts in his past, and his lack of striking experience will be offset by his superior abilities inside and greater height. Jiujitsu will not be enough to save Teddy, especially if it's the variety he supposedly learned from John O'Brien. Lincoln by submission...unless he practiced a variety of catch wrestling that does not include submissions (plausible, actually--unless it's the Lancashire variety, it would only have "falls"). If that is the case, then Teddy would either submit or KO Lincoln. The latter is more likely.
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07-21-2007, 05:47 PM	#3
karmazon impossible is a dare Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 99 vCash: 1000	Re: Abraham Lincoln vs Teddy Roosevelt I'm picking Roosevelt, Lincoln was skinny, Roosevelt most likely hits harder and he's just the kind of person that when he hits, he wants to take your head off, whereas Lincoln seems more of a gentleman fighter.
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07-21-2007, 05:54 PM	#4
Beebs Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 13,330 vCash: 1493	Re: Abraham Lincoln vs Teddy Roosevelt I think I would take Lincoln, TR's ego would be his downfall.
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07-21-2007, 07:25 PM	#5
Donut62 Contender ESB Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 727 vCash: 1000	Re: Abraham Lincoln vs Teddy Roosevelt Teddy can bang it out, and I think he can use his stout frame and judo experience to stay on his feet. Lincoln's no-gi grappling would give him an edge on the mat, with his reach he could ground and pound teddy easy from the gaurd. It's a tough fight. Probably the two presidents who would do best in fighting, no?
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