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Old 06-21-2008, 09:58 AM   #1
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Default Max Schmeling vs. Floyd Patterson

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Old 06-21-2008, 10:07 AM   #2
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Schmeling was formidable against (semi)aggressive fighters without a too big punch, i think Patterson would be no exception. Schmeling by TKO or comfortable decision.
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Old 06-21-2008, 12:15 PM   #3
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Schmeling was formidable against (semi)aggressive fighters without a too big punch, i think Patterson would be no exception. Schmeling by TKO or comfortable decision.
This is about my view, except I think a decision would be close. Patterson's style often seems rather passive on film, with Floyd going a long time without throwing punches. That kind of style might actually give the counter-punching Schmeling problems and Floyd has a better jab. Patterson certainly has the weapons to win but to me he is something of an enigma and Schmeling generally got the most out of what he had, so I will take Schmeling.
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Old 06-21-2008, 01:27 PM   #4
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I'm going with Floyd in this one, suspect Chin and all. Better Jab, busier, underrated Left Hook, in with better People overall. Patterson UD 15.
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Old 06-21-2008, 02:05 PM   #5
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Schemling didn't exactly have a ATG chin himself.
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Old 06-21-2008, 02:16 PM   #6
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At first I was tempted to pick Schmelling in an upset, but I just can't - he would have had problems timing Patterson (if Schmelling couldn't time his opponent, he would have a problem). Patterson was just too fast of hand and foot, he'd land combinations, push Schmelling off, and repeat for the duration of the bout. Schmelling might score a flash knockdown early (Patterson was always susceptable to flash knockdowns), but Patterson, as always, would get up and take a unanimous decision.

Patterson W15 Schmelling
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Old 06-21-2008, 02:42 PM   #7
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not so sure here. patterson was more gifted, but his chin downright sucked.

schmelings right hand would land and it would put patterson on his ass.

got to go with schmeling.
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Old 06-21-2008, 02:46 PM   #8
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not so sure here. patterson was more gifted, but his chin downright sucked.

schmelings right hand would land and it would put patterson on his ass.

got to go with schmeling.
Patterson always got up.

Therefore, he would likely be knocked down early, but overall he would outland and outwork Schmelling, keep him off balance, and win a lopsided decision.
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Old 06-21-2008, 02:55 PM   #9
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This would be a great fight to watch as both men would present countering problems to the other; Patterson would be prone for the right hand between his peek-a-boo defence, coming in and Schmeling would be vulnerable to the kind of speed and pressure Patterson could apply.

The defining point for Ted Spoon though is that Schmeling has the durability and cool head to negate and absorb Patterson's attack while working his evil way with the counter right hand.

Ingemar was not much of a technician, not bad, but Schmeling was better, and that's where Floyd would come unstuck. Floyd would win some exchanges with his speedy combinations but Schmeling's keen aim would help Patterson to a late round exit after a gusty effort and exciting fight.
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Old 06-21-2008, 02:59 PM   #10
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This would be a great fight to watch as both men would present countering problems to the other; Patterson would be prone for the right hand between his peek-a-boo defence, coming in and Schmeling would be vulnerable to the kind of speed and pressure Patterson could apply.

The defining point for Ted Spoon though is that Schmeling has the durability and cool head to negate and absorb Patterson's attack while working his evil way with the counter right hand.

Ingemar was not much of a technician, not bad, but Schmeling was better, and that's where Floyd would come unstuck. Floyd would win some exchanges with his speedy combinations but Schmeling's keen aim would help Patterson to a late round exit after a gusty effort and exciting fight.
Good ****ysis.

Very possible, but I still don't think Schmelling would be able to work himself in with Patterson's speed. Also, Schmelling was not as big a puncher as Ingo was.
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Old 06-21-2008, 03:09 PM   #11
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Good ****ysis.

Very possible, but I still don't think Schmelling would be able to work himself in with Patterson's speed. Also, Schmelling was not as big a puncher as Ingo was.
That's fair enough, the fight is not B & W at all.

A key point lies in the story of Patterson - that being that while he was floored the most, he got up the most - it's possible he could gut this one out after getting stung - like he did many times.

Schmeling's right did not carry the weight of 'Ingo's Bingo' but it was better timed and caught you coming in. Ingemar pole-axed Floyd, Schmeling would look to sucker him into a similar demise.

The more likely options are a KO victory for Schmeling or a decison for Patterson. If Patterson is still there at the end then something has gone quite wrong for Schmeing and he has probably got the worst of the battle.
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Old 06-21-2008, 04:16 PM   #12
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Schmeling was all Right hand, and a counter puncher to boot. He had no Left Jab to speak of and no Left hook to speak of. Patterson was a more complete boxer, quicker fists, and better foot work. Schmeling would be hard pressed to defend himself with Floyds quick hands and counter Left Hooks. Floyd was also a good in fighter and heres another area where Floyds quick hands would dominate. Patterson 15rd. UD.
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Old 06-21-2008, 04:25 PM   #13
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Schmeling was all Right hand, and a counter puncher to boot. He had no Left Jab to speak of and no Left hook to speak of.
Have to disagree here.

While Schmeling was fond of his right he could certainly use his left. He handily outpointed Paulino Uzcudun with his right hand broken in one of their encounters.
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Old 06-21-2008, 04:25 PM   #14
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Patterson wins this. He has the faster hands, more courage, and better overall skills.
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Old 06-21-2008, 04:30 PM   #15
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more courage,
Schmeling wasnt afraid of his Sonny Liston.

He knocked him out.
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