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Old 06-21-2008, 03:38 PM   #16
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Schmeling wasnt afraid of his Sonny Liston.

He knocked him out.
I think it's safe to say had a peak Liston fought Schmeling instead of a green Louis, Schmeling would of been out early.

Also, Schmeling lost in the same round to his "Sonny Liston" that Patterson did in the rematch.
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Old 06-21-2008, 03:53 PM   #17
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more courage
Nope.
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Old 06-21-2008, 03:54 PM   #18
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This is probably the best match up that I've never thought of. Really interesting. I pick Schmeling, SD.
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Old 06-21-2008, 03:57 PM   #19
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Nope.
If Schmeling was Liston, than Patterson probably wouldn't have the heart edge here. Max isn't Liston, and against fighters like Ingo Patterson's fighting heart was on clear display. You could put him down, but keeping him down was another matter.
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Old 06-21-2008, 04:24 PM   #20
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Have to disagree here.

While Schmeling was fond of his right he could certainly use his left. He handily outpointed Paulino Uzcudun with his right hand broken in one of their encounters.
Max had more of a pawing left then a quick striking one,used more to gauge distance and set up the Right it seems to me.
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Old 06-21-2008, 04:29 PM   #21
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If Schmeling was Liston, than Patterson probably wouldn't have the heart edge here. Max isn't Liston, and against fighters like Ingo Patterson's fighting heart was on clear display. You could put him down, but keeping him down was another matter.
Patterson had heart, yeah, I just don't think he had more than Schmeling. I'd give them both 9's.
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Old 06-21-2008, 04:33 PM   #22
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Patterson had heart, yeah, I just don't think he had more than Schmeling. I'd give them both 9's.
Fair enough. They're both warriors and I probably shouldn't have said Patteron had more heart.
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Old 06-21-2008, 05:11 PM   #23
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I think it's safe to say had a peak Liston fought Schmeling instead of a green Louis, Schmeling would of been out early.
I make no such asumption.

By the same logic Louis should have had him early.

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Also, Schmeling lost in the same round to his "Sonny Liston" that Patterson did in the rematch.
Having previously avenged the loss.

My point is that in Louis I Schmeling was up against similar odds to Patterson in the Liston fight, perhaps worse, and he was thinking about Louis's guts as much as Louis was thinking about his.

Schmeling was a cool customer if nothing else.
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Old 06-21-2008, 06:57 PM   #24
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This is probably the best match up that I've never thought of. Really interesting. I pick Schmeling, SD.
Thanks Max.
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Old 06-29-2008, 01:18 PM   #25
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Schmeling was very clever with his right counters. Max by kayo.
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Old 07-11-2008, 05:19 AM   #26
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Schmeling: close UD.
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Old 07-11-2008, 05:59 AM   #27
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Great match up... Schmeling by late KO or TKO... For all the reasons stated above.

IMO Schmeling is alos just a better fighter.
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Old 07-11-2008, 06:50 AM   #28
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I'm going with Patterson for reasons already stated. I feel schmeling would have a lot of trouble timing him to land consistently whereas patterson will land those speedy combinations. Of course this wont happen the entire fight but I see it as the general patter leading to a Patterson UD.
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Old 07-11-2008, 01:07 PM   #29
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Thats a good contest schmeling had a terrific right cross and was very clever when looking to exploit the weakness of a opponent patterson had speed and a punch but lacked the punch resistance thats needed for a champion in the heavyweights. I would say that the big german would have a advantage because he would go in knowing that if he landed that would be it his confidence would be skyhigh. I think he would catch patterson around the 7th round and ko him but would have difficulty in the early stages finding a way to nail a man as fast as patterson.
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Old 07-11-2008, 01:57 PM   #30
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Great matchup I'd never heard discussed before. Gotta go with Schmeling. Dude beat Joe Louis once!
I think it would be a very interesting/entertaining fight. Different eras, different styles. I think Patterson's style could give Schmeling problems, but I can't get past thinking Schmeling is a better version of Johannson. Mid to Late round Knockout.
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