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Old 07-04-2008, 01:34 AM   #1
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Default Fantasy: Mike Tyson Vs. Douglas II [1990-10-25]

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(Instead of Holyfield, Tyson got the rematch)

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Old 07-04-2008, 02:17 AM   #2
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Has Tyson ever defeated in a rematch anyone he ever lost to
previously?

If Douglas shows up in maximim shape, and with an "unbeatable" attitude, then the old axiom "Once you knock someone out, you knock them out faster the second time around" will probably prevail.

Douglas by TKO in 8 over a fragile psych Tyson.
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Old 07-04-2008, 02:31 AM   #3
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Has Tyson ever defeated in a rematch anyone he ever lost to
previously?

If Douglas shows up in maximim shape, and with an "unbeatable" attitude, then the old axiom "Once you knock someone out, you knock them out faster the second time around" will probably prevail.

Douglas by TKO in 8 over a fragile psych Tyson.
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Old 07-04-2008, 03:33 AM   #4
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Has Tyson ever defeated in a rematch anyone he ever lost to
previously?
Kind of a silly point when Tyson was only ever rematched with Evander.

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If Douglas shows up in maximim shape, and with an "unbeatable" attitude, then the old axiom "Once you knock someone out, you knock them out faster the second time around" will probably prevail.

Douglas by TKO in 8 over a fragile psych Tyson.
It's possible.
If Douglas showed up in the same shape as Tokyo with the same mindset, it's well possible. Tyson wasn't that off in Tokyo. He wasn't at his best, but he wasn't totally unprepared either. Douglas just fought brilliantly.

Problem is, I don't think Buster would show up in the same shape as Tokyo. He didn't against Evander so why should he against Tyson the second time round?

If Buster showed up in the 240+ range and with little ambition as he did against Evander (and I believe he would) I pick Tyson by KO in 2.
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Old 07-04-2008, 05:13 AM   #5
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Douglas.

I think Tyson doesn't come out anywhere near as aggressive against a guy that beat him. Plus, early in a bout Douglas would have the footwork to avoid those rushes even if he did. It would be interesting to see if Tyson could fight a smart fight at a measured pace and break a guy like Douglas down in sections to get a win. I don't think so & still think he will not slip those jabs and avoid those combinations. That was a rebuilding job with Tyson they did > Tokyo & I think Tyson needed that & not tough matchups.
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Old 07-04-2008, 05:16 AM   #6
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Interesting...keep it going
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Old 07-04-2008, 11:06 AM   #7
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tyson has to be favourite. but douglas still has a good chance if he is right

tyson was totally off form and out of shape for first fight. but i still think douglas had the style to beat the best mike tyson of 1989-1991.

the tyson of 1985-1988 beats douglas ever day of the week. but after the spinks fight tyson was never the same force. he abandoned his good jab, great head movement and combo punching.

the tyson of 1989 and onwards was just a very fast great punching slugger
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Old 07-04-2008, 11:07 AM   #8
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Douglas.

I think Tyson doesn't come out anywhere near as aggressive against a guy that beat him. Plus, early in a bout Douglas would have the footwork to avoid those rushes even if he did. It would be interesting to see if Tyson could fight a smart fight at a measured pace and break a guy like Douglas down in sections to get a win. I don't think so & still think he will not slip those jabs and avoid those combinations. That was a rebuilding job with Tyson they did > Tokyo & I think Tyson needed that & not tough matchups.
don't forget, tyson had douglas out in the 8th. buster could easily have been counted out on another night
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Old 07-04-2008, 02:14 PM   #9
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He had him down, not out. Tyson came out the next round trying to finish the guy and couldn't. I look at that as a positive for Douglas in the rematch as a big plus for Douglas anyway. He did get nailed by Tyson and survived it.
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Old 07-04-2008, 02:15 PM   #10
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Tyson would have dismantled the Douglas that showed up for Holyfield.
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Old 07-04-2008, 04:49 PM   #11
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Default Re: Fantasy: Mike Tyson Vs. Douglas II [1990-10-25]

I'm getting a vibe that the people who picked Douglas also would have favorved Evander of 1990 over "Post" Tokyo Mike Tyson?
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Old 07-04-2008, 06:33 PM   #12
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I'm getting a vibe that the people who picked Douglas also would have favorved Evander of 1990 over "Post" Tokyo Mike Tyson?
despite his decline, the tyson of that era could still beat everyone around. i reckon that holyfield would of been too much of a warrior and got outslugged like in the bowe fight. but you never know. he showed great discipline in the second bowe fight
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Old 07-04-2008, 07:04 PM   #13
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I doubt Douglas would have shown up in nearly the shape he was in Japan. Easy ko for Mike.
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Old 07-04-2008, 07:41 PM   #14
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Tyson by KO. It would have been a different fight
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Old 07-04-2008, 08:20 PM   #15
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Default Re: Fantasy: Mike Tyson Vs. Douglas II [1990-10-25]

I bleive the result of Tyson/Douglas was due to Douglas fighting a perfect fight with the exception of being knocked down in round 8, and Tyson being unperpared. Tyson's corner that fight may have been the worst corner to work a fight. They were using a rubber glove with ice water to try to reduce swelling. Tyson had also shown sings that something was missing he showed less of the head movement that helped make him so danguress in the Bruno fight. His quick ko of Williams had most people thinking Tyson was back to "normal"
Douglas when motavated could be great. Even if Tyson had not had a bad night or was still at his best Douglas may still have won their fight. The Jab and Grab style that Douglas used gave Tyson problems for 3 rounds when he faced Larry Holmes. The probblem with Douglas is that he could not allways be motovated. In his defense against Holyfield he weighed 246 compared to 231 when he beat Tyson.
Leading up to the rematch Tyson would have beaten Henry Tillman in June, This would have been Douglas's first fight sense beating Tyson 8 and half months before. If Douglas comes to this fight like he did against Holyfield than Even the Tyson that he beat would have beat him in a rematch. If they both came prepared I like Tyson by late round stopage. The Jab and Grab style would stlil be effictive aginst Tyson but keep in mind that in their actual fight Tyson was able to land and he did score a knockdown in round eight. However a better prepared Tyson would have weathered the storm and stoped Douglas late.
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