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Old 07-07-2008, 08:47 PM   #1
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Default Riddick Bowe beats Sonny Liston

Three battles with the real deal, is better than anything Liston ever accomplished.........Period.......
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Old 07-07-2008, 10:24 PM   #2
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A prime Bowe I would think would be favored over any version of Liston.
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Old 07-07-2008, 11:48 PM   #3
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Riddick Bowe is the man
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Old 07-08-2008, 12:26 AM   #4
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Being able to out jab Bowe goes a long way in an effort to defeat him. Holyfield was able to do it at times. Golota did it most of the time in their bouts.

Liston could beat Bowe in the jab battle, getting a big edge. Bowe was dangerous on the inside, because he let his hands go once he was there. Riddick Bowe did not mind fighting, and he had a lot of heart.

Even though Liston was giving up around 4 inches in height, he had the longer reach. Liston uses his jab to keep the fight on the outside, and wins a decision.
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Old 07-08-2008, 12:37 AM   #5
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Being able to out jab Bowe goes a long way in an effort to defeat him. Holyfield was able to do it at times. Golota did it most of the time in their bouts.

Liston could beat Bowe in the jab battle, getting a big edge. Bowe was dangerous on the inside, because he let his hands go once he was there. Riddick Bowe did not mind fighting, and he had a lot of heart.

Even though Liston was giving up around 4 inches in height, he had the longer reach. Liston uses his jab to keep the fight on the outside, and wins a decision.

Agree with everything but the end. Liston KO's Bowe late. Bowe is GROSSLY overrated based purely on catching Holyfield once and getting a hepatitis Holyfield in the rubber match.
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Old 07-08-2008, 12:43 AM   #6
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Agree with everything but the end. Liston KO's Bowe late. Bowe is GROSSLY overrated based purely on catching Holyfield once and getting a hepatitis Holyfield in the rubber match.
I sometimes give fighters the benefit of the doubt based on their records. Bowe has never been stopped. He was close against Holyfield and Golota, so it is a possibility.
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Old 07-08-2008, 03:36 AM   #7
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I think it's possible Bowe wins. He had formidable tools. My only concern is the amount of punches he took in some fights. Even the limited Coetzer was able to land freely on him.
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Old 07-08-2008, 05:00 AM   #8
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Yes, Bowe took a lot of punches and tended to freeze when caught. He also froze after throwing a jab. Watch his fights with Golota for proof.

That said, I would say that Bowe did have the tools to take Liston. Only thing is, my gut feeling says that Liston would have been the first one to stop Bowe had the two met.
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Old 07-08-2008, 03:07 PM   #9
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Interesting match-up and good posts here (fists of fury, abraq, rekutnevets).

Bowe was at his career best in Holyfield I. Futch in the corner. Dick Gregory as dietician. His skill set matched Holyfield throughout, but his only problem was a tendency to fight small when he didn't need to. And as has been said, he got hit too much.

I see Liston controlling this fight with a jab. Now, if Bowe had the temperment to stay away from it outside and fight disciplined for 15, he may overcome Liston, but I see him engaging Liston once to many. Liston's explosiveness -while not fast, could seem unstoppable, would do damage to the soft-gutted and insecure Bowe.

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Old 07-08-2008, 03:12 PM   #10
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Liston: late stoppage.
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not nearly as overated as ur avater boy lennox lewis. Bowe was the more talented big man.
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Bowe was the more talented big man.

No he was not.
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Old 07-08-2008, 03:35 PM   #13
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Bowe at his best was more talented AND more skilled than Lewis. That being said, he didn't have a quarter of Lewis's character. Lewis is the greater and not by a little either.
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Old 07-08-2008, 03:38 PM   #14
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Three battles with the real deal, is better than anything Liston ever accomplished.........Period.......
What is this? wind up Suzie week?
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Old 07-08-2008, 03:41 PM   #15
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What is this? wind up Suzie week?
I was wondering what's going on with Magoo and these threads...!
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