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Old 07-26-2007, 11:53 AM   #1
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Did he have an all time great chin? Did his fights against Hart and Hagler show this?

I know he was a bit cut prone... But raw durability wise, how well could Vito take a punch? Examples?
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Old 07-26-2007, 01:25 PM   #2
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Vito took Haglers best punches but in the 2nd fight was blinded by a cut and dropped but he got up OK just blinded, took Minters shots, Vito did not always get hit flush because he crowded his opponents but He had a solid Jaw, not a Lamotta jaw but up there just below
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:26 AM   #3
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After hearing about the shots he took against Hart I don't think calling his chin Lamotta like would be far off.

He was suposedly lifted OFF the canvas by some of Eugene's punches.

In Vito's own words... "If I could take those shots, I could take any". Or something really close to that.
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Old 07-27-2007, 02:11 PM   #4
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His chin was definitely an A i'd say. I think he was only floored two or three times. All knockdowns of the flash/off balance variety. Although he was dead on his feet against Hope (ala La Motta-Robinson).
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Old 07-27-2007, 04:55 PM   #5
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His chin was definitely an A i'd say. I think he was only floored two or three times. All knockdowns of the flash/off balance variety. Although he was dead on his feet against Hope (ala La Motta-Robinson).
I saw himagainst Minter in London his chin looked pretty solid to me.
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Old 07-27-2007, 05:45 PM   #6
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the 2nd fight with minter he took a hell of a pumelling,but was still on his feet when it was stopped on cuts.
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:54 PM   #7
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Vito's chin was close to LaMotta's caliber. Mauricio Aldana caught him cold, coming off a long layoff to drop him twice in the first round, but those were purely ring rust induced flash knockdowns. Once Antuofermo got in gear for that one, he had Aldana panting like a dog.

Vito's next bout was the rematch with Hagler. Marv dropped him in the third, with what may have been the best left cross of Hagler's career, but again, it was only a flash knockdown. (Noteworthy though, because Duran later said all of Marv's power was concentrated in his right, that "his left is dead.")

The only time I've heard of Antuofermo being seriously stunned was at the close of his 15 rounder with Hope, when he was supposedly weakened by making the 154 pound limit.

Like LaMotta, Antuofermo was a vastly underrated defensive fighter, who knew how to move his head a fraction of an inch to take away the full impact of a punch. Jake was masterful enough at this trick to evade any signs of dementia well into his mid 80s. (At his age now, Jake gets a free pass if he develops diminished mental capacity. Once a person turns 86 as Lamotta just has, then such an onset couldn't be reliably laid at the doorstep of taking too many punches anyway.)
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Old 07-28-2007, 05:57 AM   #8
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Great stuff Duodenum, thanks.
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Old 07-28-2007, 05:59 AM   #9
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IMO Antuofermo had definitely an A- chin, like one wrote yet, Hagler hit him with some of his best shots and Vito wasn´t really hurt for example...
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Absolutely top shelf chin.
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Old 07-28-2007, 12:27 PM   #11
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One of the best chin's in Middleweight history. But "A bit cut Prone"?! Ha,Ha! That's the underestimate of the year! Fake a jab & he would bleed!
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:31 PM   #12
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Did he have an all time great chin? Did his fights against Hart and Hagler show this?

I know he was a bit cut prone... But raw durability wise, how well could Vito take a punch? Examples?
Vito had a top chin. It was among the best in middle weight history. On a 1 to 100 scale with 100 being the best and 1 being the worst, I say Vito’s chin was in the mid 90’s.
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Old 07-28-2007, 10:39 PM   #13
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One of the best chin's in Middleweight history. But "A bit cut Prone"?! Ha,Ha! That's the underestimate of the year! Fake a jab & he would bleed!
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One of the best chin's in Middleweight history. But "A bit cut Prone"?! Ha,Ha! That's the underestimate of the year! Fake a jab & he would bleed!
LOL

Yeah Vito Bleed, and I'm in agreement his chin was top of the line. I had the pleasure of meeting him briefly back in the day, seemed to be a good guy. But the scartissue he had at the time is something that didn't come across on TV.

If only he had a punch close to his toughness and heart
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Old 07-28-2007, 11:13 PM   #15
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Vito was and always will be one of my all time favorite fighters. Anybody know if the talk that circulated about his corner using axel grease on him to close cuts have any truth to them? I thought so much of him I recently named the Boxer I bought after him. If the house breaking doesn't start sinking in I'm going Minter on him.LOL
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