15 rounds, 20 rounds or 25 rounds ? - Page 2

JohnThomas1 · 07-18-2008, 07:22 AM

Have ONE absolute world championship faction. Keep the shit titles whatever, but have one defining faction being for WORLD CHAMP. This top faction would be 15 round fights, the other entities calling themselves world titles would be 12 rounds.

bigjake · 07-18-2008, 07:26 AM

15 rounds is ideal for a championship match,those extra 3 rds separates the men from the boys.

bigjake

Hatesrats · 07-18-2008, 08:23 AM

I'd settle for 13 RdS.
(Just to eliminate the Draw, for the most part)

Duodenum · 07-19-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mendoza

Amen. I have often said boxing is full of alphabet politics, but if a new one comes out that sanction 15 round title fights, I give them credibility right out of the gate.

This is what drives me nuts more than anything else about the proliferation of organizations, the fact that none of them recognize that the biggest single competitive advantage an upstart outfit could possibly have is accomodation of the 15 round distance.

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While 15 rounds can be dangerous ( especially in the lower weights due to fighters de-hydrating to make weight and taking too many punches ) , I would love to see boxing allow if for special occasions, such as a title unification fights.

I don't believe that the 15 round distance need necessarily be restricted to championship fights (a-la Ali/Bonavena and Ali/Mac Foster), and I think safety would be enhanced through improved conditioning.

Regarding weight and dehydration, it might be prudent to weigh each combatant over the entire course of the preceeding week to establish a healthy baseline. SRL always began his training camps weighing under the limit of the division he was competing in, and this should perhaps be an informal requirement for everybody participating in the sport.

Stonehands89 · 07-19-2008, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnThomas1

Have ONE absolute world championship faction. Keep the shit titles whatever, but have one defining faction being for WORLD CHAMP. This top faction would be 15 round fights, the other entities calling themselves world titles would be 12 rounds.

I like that.

Zakman · 07-20-2008, 12:58 AM

15 rounds is the optimal distance for title fights, although part of me would love to see a return to longer fights (more boxing for the buck!).

It is a shame that the TV networks pressured them to shorten it to 12.

Mendoza · 07-20-2008, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Zakman

15 rounds is the optimal distance for title fights, although part of me would love to see a return to longer fights (more boxing for the buck!).

It is a shame that the TV networks pressured them to shorten it to 12.

15 rounds fits neatly in an hour. 45 minutes of action, with 15 minutes of breaks in-between rounds to air commercials. If the network added in 30 minutes for pre fight hype, post fight interviews, plus a few commercials, they are fine.

ThinBlack · 03-13-2012, 05:38 PM

15 rounds for title fights, and only title fights.Leave the 12 rounders for the USBA and NABF titles, or state titles.

orriray59 · 03-13-2012, 05:50 PM

Surprise surprise.

It's ThinBlack.

EDIT: But yeah, this can make for interesting discussion. I tend to agree with McGrain here. Plus 15 rounders could be a bit shit to put it kindly.

Drew101 · 03-13-2012, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnThomas1

Have ONE absolute world championship faction. Keep the shit titles whatever, but have one defining faction being for WORLD CHAMP. This top faction would be 15 round fights, the other entities calling themselves world titles would be 12 rounds.

This.

Vano-Irons · 03-13-2012, 06:29 PM

15 rounds for me. A 20-25 round fight would slow the pace down too much for my liking

DaveK · 03-13-2012, 06:30 PM

15 rounds. It's irritating to see top level guys get paid millions and after 12 rounds, they look and act like they could do another 12...

Those extra 3 rounds have featured some of the highest drama and biggest historical events, plus, as Big Jake said, it truly seperates the men from the boys...

I think that one thing could do a lot towards cleaning up fighters' mentality and especially concerning heavyweights, make fighters come in top condition.

frankenfrank · 03-14-2012, 06:15 AM

1 rd , no breaks , till a stoppage occurs , like in real life .
12 rds is much better than 15 which is more of a running contest

red cobra · 03-14-2012, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by McGrain

Fifteen.

Once you're in the region of 20 and 25 you're skewing things in favour of the endurance athlete in my opinion. Good punch resistance and stamina (obviously absolutley crucial as things stand) come to be as important as speed and power.

15 rounds is the perfect distance for boxing in my opinion.

Tried and true.

Bummy Davis · 03-14-2012, 10:18 AM

I am a big proponent of 15 round, for me the last 3 rounds 13, 14 and 15 were magic in separation of the true champion and it also usually insured that 2 conditioned men would enter the ring. The pace of a 15 rounder as opposed to a 12 rounder was not sacrificed, in fact the condition level,the plan and some of the fights were classic and perfect.

I think once you go beyond 15 rounds the fighters would be more concerned with lasting the marathon than the work-output ....15 rounds for championship fights 12rds for regional titles and eliminations and 10, 8,6 and 4 according to the level of experience. I used to love to go to a boxing card and see the 4 rd. guy then a 6rder or 2 and an 8 or a 10 then the title fight for 15 rds...usually you would get a great mix of action at all level of the game and recognize the difference

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DaveK Vicious & Malicious ESB Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 1,838 vCash: 1000	Re: 15 rounds, 20 rounds or 25 rounds ? 15 rounds. It's irritating to see top level guys get paid millions and after 12 rounds, they look and act like they could do another 12... Those extra 3 rounds have featured some of the highest drama and biggest historical events, plus, as Big Jake said, it truly seperates the men from the boys... I think that one thing could do a lot towards cleaning up fighters' mentality and especially concerning heavyweights, make fighters come in top condition.
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frankenfrank Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,959 vCash: 4470	Re: 15 rounds, 20 rounds or 25 rounds ? 1 rd , no breaks , till a stoppage occurs , like in real life . 12 rds is much better than 15 which is more of a running contest
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Bummy Davis Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: New York Posts: 8,172 vCash: 1000	Re: 15 rounds, 20 rounds or 25 rounds ? I am a big proponent of 15 round, for me the last 3 rounds 13, 14 and 15 were magic in separation of the true champion and it also usually insured that 2 conditioned men would enter the ring. The pace of a 15 rounder as opposed to a 12 rounder was not sacrificed, in fact the condition level,the plan and some of the fights were classic and perfect. I think once you go beyond 15 rounds the fighters would be more concerned with lasting the marathon than the work-output ....15 rounds for championship fights 12rds for regional titles and eliminations and 10, 8,6 and 4 according to the level of experience. I used to love to go to a boxing card and see the 4 rd. guy then a 6rder or 2 and an 8 or a 10 then the title fight for 15 rds...usually you would get a great mix of action at all level of the game and recognize the difference
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