Gene Fullmer v.s Marvin Hagler

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Originally Posted by mcvey

Outboxing basilio doesnt make you Willie Pep,Fullmer a very big middle was just too strong for Basilio really a big welter,lots of guys outboxed Fullmer and Hagler would too

Who are the lots of guys. Tiger didn't outbox him. His other losses came early in his career. He was able to beat Spider Webb badly twice. He would give Hagler trouble.

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Originally Posted by dave krieg

Some Poster Said Hagler Could Take Fullmers Hard Punches Right?gene Fullmers Record Is 55 Wins 6 Loses With 24 Knockouts.not Really A Hard Puncher Was He?he Would Have Nothing To Keep Hagler Off Him With.hagler Would Of Chopped Him Down And Stopped Him With Not Much Effort.

I would take Hagler and I agree there is next to no chance Fullmer knocks Hagler out. I could see Fullmer winning, though, with his clutch and punch style. I don't think he would have tried to keep Hagler off. I think he would have crowded Hagler, and he was quick enough and strong enough to maybe make it work for an upset decision in at least 1 of 3 fights.

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Originally Posted by dave krieg

Some Poster Said Hagler Could Take Fullmers Hard Punches Right?gene Fullmers Record Is 55 Wins 6 Loses With 24 Knockouts.not Really A Hard Puncher Was He?he Would Have Nothing To Keep Hagler Off Him With.hagler Would Of Chopped Him Down And Stopped Him With Not Much Effort.

How much film have you actually seen of Fullmer? And like I said to you in the other thread about the LaMotta/Hearns matchup, don`t be fooled by KO records... just because Fullmer did not have a impressive knockout record does not mean he didn`t hit hard.

He wasn`t a one punch KO kind of guy granted, but ask anyone who ever fought him and they will tell you he could hit pretty damn hard. And if KO Lausse couldn`t put him away after landing his cannonball left hook on Gene, Marv sure as hell won`t either.

Oh and by the way, Lausse did have a rather impressive KO record which you seem to put so much stock in, but he was a genuinely hard hitting middleweight. Go watch Lausse` KO of Chico Varona for proof, he nearly decapitated him with his left hook.