Larry Holmes -vs- Lennox Lewis

[teeto]

Originally Posted by Loewe

I saw Liverpool two days ago against Hertha BSC. Pretty boring game and the only two guys of Liverppol i knew were Kuyt and Mascerano. Well, wish ya guys good luck for the next season.

Thanks, never saw it, was keeping updated with the result though, the manager doesnt seem to be fielding any first team players really in this pre-season, unlike last time, when he was trying out his new big-names.

WE REALLY ARE HOGGING THE THREAD NOW GUYS! Haha, see you lot later!

You have a team by he way???

[Loewe]

Originally Posted by teeto

Thanks, never saw it, was keeping updated with the result though, the manager doesnt seem to be fielding any first team players really in this pre-season, unlike last time, when he was trying out his new big-names.

WE REALLY ARE HOGGING THE THREAD NOW GUYS! Haha, see you lot later!

You have a team by he way???

Sure. I´m a supporter of the greatest football club in the world: TSV 1860 München (Munich). I´m original from a small village near Munich and live only for 4 years in Berlin, so i grew up with the "Lions" - actually my nick here means lion in German.
And then i have a secret love for the celtic fc since i saw the UEFA-cup final of 2003 and i´m looking really forward to the 2.14.09 when i´m going Glasgow to see the old firm.

btw. is nobody here who thinka Lewis would beat Holmes other than me?

[rekcutnevets]

Holmes has an edge in hand speed, and would welcome a jab battle. Holmes would win the jab battle, forcing Lennox to become more aggressive. This fight would then become sloppy at times. Holmes footwork was not pretty, but combined with his jab; it'll be enough to win most of the exchanges against lumbering Lennox.

Holmes UD.

[Loewe]

Why does everyone think that Lewis just stays on the outside to fight a losing battle? Don´t you think he would change tactics when he sees that he would lose this way? Well, i do.

[Bill1234]

Holmes ud. His jab was better than Lennox's and he would be able to fire two off in the time Lennox would be able to fire one off. Larry's jab would keep him at bay and start to make Lewis weary of it by the 12th round. Holmes starts landing some hard body shots in the 13th to wear Lewis out more, and by the 15th Lewis is tired and swollen, but he's still dangerous. Holmes starts throwing his right hand over Lewis's jab and he puts combo's together. He wins a close, but clear victory.

[Bill1234]

Originally Posted by Loewe

Why does everyone think that Lewis just stays on the outside to fight a losing battle? Don´t you think he would change tactics when he sees that he would lose this way? Well, i do.

If/when Lewis came inside Holmes would start to land hard body shots and uppercuts. Holmes is a step above Lewis in many ways except power.

[fists of fury]

Originally Posted by D-MAC

Big fan of Liverpool....but, of course, that doesn't tally with the glory hunter tag

My Dinner With Conteh is going to love you mate. HJ...feeling okay there son?

Okay to topic...I pick Holmes by decision. Brilliant jab, and he'd fluster Lewis with it.

[JohnThomas1]

Originally Posted by Bill1234

If/when Lewis came inside Holmes would start to land hard body shots and uppercuts. Holmes is a step above Lewis in many ways except power.

What fight would you point me to where Holmes lands hard body shots in his peak?

[fists of fury]

Originally Posted by teeto

I'm from Liverpool, and a big Liverpool fan,

I think Liverpool are the most supported team on this site.

[Loewe]

Originally Posted by Bill1234

If/when Lewis came inside Holmes would start to land hard body shots and uppercuts. Holmes is a step above Lewis in many ways except power.

Well, did you see the uppercuts Tyson and Vitali were getting hit by Lewis? I don´t think Holmes could take them long enough to not getting koed. And i´m sure he would get hit with them because i don´t buy that Lewis would fight Holmes´ fight.

[fists of fury]

Originally Posted by Loewe

Why does everyone think that Lewis just stays on the outside to fight a losing battle? Don´t you think he would change tactics when he sees that he would lose this way? Well, i do.

Assuming he finds himself losing from the outside, why do you think he'd do to remedy that? What tactically would he change, in your opinion?

[Holmes' Jab]

Originally Posted by fists of fury

I think Liverpool are the most supported team on this site.

I'd say you're maybe right, but they have an equal number of detractors too.

[Loewe]

Originally Posted by fists of fury

Assuming he finds himself losing from the outside, why do you think he'd do to remedy that? What tactically would he change, in your opinion?

I wrote on the first page:

Well, Holmes had the best Jab of any hw but Lewis shouldn´t be underestimated. He also had a very good jab which isn´t that much worse than Holmes´. Imo Lewis is a bit more versatile than Holmes, together with his edge in size and power i think he would win. In the beginning it would be a war of Jabs but when Lewis sees himself beeing outgunned there he will try to make it a brawl in close range to negate Holmes´ superior jab. And there he´s the clear favourite - remember the uppercuts against Tyson and Vitali? Lewis TKO8-10 Holmes.

Holmes still is a step higher all-time-wise. I have Holmes at 4 and Lewis at 5.

Or he could try to do what he did to Golota, obviously Holmes is better than the Pole.

[fists of fury]

You don't think being more aggressive would actually play more into Holmes' hands?

[Holmes' Jab]

Originally Posted by Bill1234

If/when Lewis came inside Holmes would start to land hard body shots and uppercuts. Holmes is a step above Lewis in many ways except power.

How is Larry "a level above" Lennox? Seriously, though they're both amongst the top 10 heavyweights of all-time, well up it in most peoples opinion. It's a very close call regarding their fundementals: Lewis' jab is almost as good, he's arguably a better inside fighter, equally as versitile and carries more concussive power. Holmes meanwhile has better durability and moves better, but there ain't much in it.

Mark my words this outcome would be close.