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Old 07-27-2008, 05:24 PM   #1
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Default I think Tyson of 2000 would hammer the entire division.

Do you feel the same? I am talking about the Tyson that beat Francis, Savarese and Golota. I don't see anyone of the active fighters beating him.
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Old 07-27-2008, 05:30 PM   #2
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Tyson on 2000 was grossly overrated
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Old 07-27-2008, 05:33 PM   #3
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Tyson on 2000 was grossly overrated
Overrated, by who?
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Old 07-27-2008, 05:34 PM   #4
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the same tyson who was outboxed for 5 rounds against frans botha would dominate. i doubt it. he would have a chance against WK

Tyson of 1996 would of ruled the roost
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Old 07-27-2008, 05:37 PM   #5
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the same tyson who was outboxed for 5 rounds against frans botha would dominate. i doubt it. he would have a chance against WK

Tyson of 1996 would of ruled the roost
At that time against Botha, he didn't fight for like 17 months or so.
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Old 07-27-2008, 05:40 PM   #6
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Do you feel the same? I am talking about the Tyson that beat Francis, Savarese and Golota. I don't see anyone of the active fighters beating him.
you're delusional newbie. tyson was very limited at this time. His movment was terrible and he couldn't let his hands go. Wlad would jab his face off. It would look like the Brewster rematch. 2000 Tyson would have trouble beating anyone in today's top 10.

1996 tyson has a better puncher's chance against wlad. Prime tyson would beat wlad though.
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Old 07-27-2008, 05:52 PM   #7
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IMO 2000 was Lennox Lewis's peak year. Following his win over Holyfield in '99, he KO'd the highly rated Michael Grant in 2, Francois Botha in 2 (with far greater ease than Tyson dispatched him), then won a landslide points decision over the highly dangerous David Tua. Two years later, he destroyed Tyson.

In 2000, Tyson beat 3 significantly poorer fighters: Julius Francis (21-7), Lou Savarese, and Andrew Golota.

So IMO, Tyson was not even in the top 3 heavyweights in 2000. Lewis, Holyfield, Tua, and maybe the Klitschkos even then, were all better.

Would that Tyson do better today? I don't think so. I don't think he would beat either of the Klitschkos, or Sam Peter, or James Toney, or David Haye. And he'd probably struggle with Ruslan Chagaev and Nikolay Valuev as well.

Would the Tyson of the late 1980s dominate today?? Absolutely. The Tyson of the late 80s would destroy each and every heavyweight of now, but that Tyson was a million light years ahead of the pale imitation of 2000.
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Old 07-27-2008, 06:01 PM   #8
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the same tyson who was outboxed for 5 rounds against frans botha would dominate. i doubt it. he would have a chance against WK

Tyson of 1996 would of ruled the roost
nah. top 5 but not top dog. he wansn't active enough to be on top anymore. he really didn't throw a lot of combinations anymore. he was more of one-and-done at this point. much easier to hit and lost that tremendous head movement. tyson would be losing a lot of fights on pts and have to rely on knockouts to win. good punchers chance but that's where it stops. He'd have major trouble with Peter, Valuev, Chagaev, and Sultan.

Wlad vs. 2000 and Later Tyson -- Wlad by stoppage
Wlad vs. 1996-1997 Tyson -- Wlad by pts.
Wlad vs. Prime Tyson -- Tyson by stoppage
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Old 07-27-2008, 06:04 PM   #9
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Tyson wasn't looking good at all during the Botha fight until he pulled out a devastating punch. I watched it not long ago, and prior to the knockout the commentators were saying Tyson was looking like a man who was shot.
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Old 07-27-2008, 06:25 PM   #10
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Tyson of 1996 would of ruled the roost
Lewis or Holy would have beaten A N Y version of Tyson.

Did I stress the word *any* strongly enough?

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Old 07-27-2008, 06:27 PM   #11
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Lewis or Holy would have beaten A N Y version of Tyson.

Did I stress the word *any* strongly enough?

So since neither Lewis nor Holy (really) are around in THIS hw division, Tyson of 96 would rule the roost, no?
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Old 07-27-2008, 06:52 PM   #12
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Tyson of the 80's would of been schooled by wlad, so why would this tyson have a better chance,,,
Wlad would beat tyson ass so bad people would of compared him to a brewster or a peters,,,,Posters stop smoking the I hate wlad joint these web sites dish out, he rarley loses a round, he punshies boxers to the point it takes a year or so for the boxer to recover (I.E. peters, brewster-yea he won, but it took him about a year to work off the ass beating he took). How wlad fought austin with just a left,,,wlad is a great BOXER, his defense is so good he had several fights that a punch has not landed on him in a round.......What happen to tyson is this,,,he would charge in, wlad would understand this cause he would not be looking passed him, so wlad would jab for about five sold rounds, an handful of rights, mostly when countering, at this point wlad ahead on all the cards 5-0, an the only thing tyson has landed his body punches, but has absorbed alot of jabs,,,no tyson starts getting frustraded but stop charging in as much, an wlad really begings to lay the jab in there, tyson used to walking over oppenets, starts backing up a little an in this retreat recieves a sold right cross that plants with other good, if not great that have lost to wlad,,,,, he called over-rated, an person who would have done shity in any time period but now
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Tyson of the 80's would of been schooled by wlad, so why would this tyson have a better chance,,,
You just lost about 75% of the potential readers of the rest of your post by this first sentence.

Any credibility on this topic has now been lost.
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Old 07-27-2008, 06:55 PM   #14
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Lewis or Holy would have beaten A N Y version of Tyson.

Did I stress the word *any* strongly enough?

when i said rule the roost, i meant todays scene. not the HW scene back in 1996 or 2000
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Old 07-27-2008, 06:56 PM   #15
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At that time against Botha, he didn't fight for like 17 months or so.
he should of done better though. the only good punch landed was killer punch
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