Is Freddie Roach selling out Manny Pacquiao?? - Page 2

psychopath · 07-31-2008, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by UliUli

This guys is the one that jumped up and got wet when Oscar asked him to train him for the Mayweather fight, putting Manny second place.

Now after working with both very close and knowing that DLH is bigger, more powerful, and can potentially hurt Pac very bad with a series of left hooks or perhaps just one, he is tellin Pac he could beat DLH and even KNOCK him OUT!

Is Roach making Pac believe he can win because he wants another Trainer Mega Pay Day? I can't see how an expert, professional, and experienced trainer could actually believe this. I'm lead to believe he is selling Manny out for a Mega Pay day.

Nah nah nah . . . Roach is just part of the HYPE machinery. Actually it was Arum's and Pac's decission to go for DLH. A big money fight with nothing to lose.

Have you forgotten that Roach was chosing Valero before DLH's name crop up?

kartog · 07-31-2008, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by selfkill

...but he knows just as well as we do that Oscar has more than enough power to knock Manny Pacquiao out.

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More like power that can do literally serious damage, probably life-threatening or at the very least coma-inducing injury.

GreenTea · 07-31-2008, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by san rafael

$170,000 is like $170 to Oscar De La Hoya.

It's $750K per excess pound. Peanuts for Oscar.

eliqueiros · 07-31-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Pharaoh

No. If anything Roach is selling Oscar out. He trained Oscar and then turned around and said Oscar can't get off his punches anymore, Pac will beat him. He's definately not selling out Pac.

That really pissed me off. When a trainer takes on a job then he should keep such opinions to himself about the fighter he's training. When the fighter you trained looses then that just comes off as completely disgusting because it was the trainers job (if indeed Oscar was loosing power) to come up with a plan that highlights other aspects of his skills. That Roach had a plan comepletely reliant on Oscar's power and then turn around and say he has no power because the plan failed is fucked up.

RealIzm · 07-31-2008, 02:44 PM

Is it just me or does Freddie seem to be abit slow or heavily sedated when it the corner?

RealIzm · 07-31-2008, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by selfkill

Their relationship seems to intimate.

are you saying Freddie is fucking Manny?

Dempsey08 · 07-31-2008, 03:08 PM

doesn't Freddie have parkinsons, thats why he seems slow, i think

RealIzm · 07-31-2008, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dempsey08

doesn't Freddie have parkinsons, thats why he seems slow, i think

Not sure. If he does I understand but damn he just seems lethargic and stoned

roadrunner · 07-31-2008, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by eliqueiros

Well, Pac is asking for the 170,000 dollars in penalty fees for every pound Hoya goes over 147. He's got his mind on the seriousness of what could happen. I'm sure if Hoya does not give in to the demand the fight will not be made. Against Forbes Hoya weighed 150.5 and did not have to take the fight night weigh in. He had more time to prepare for the Forbes fight.

actually it's $750k per pound above 147

djrock247 · 07-31-2008, 04:44 PM

I don't know that I would say he's selling him out. He may be overestimating his ability but Pac would be crazy NOT to take this fight. If he gets KOed 20 seconds into the fight he'll walk away with more money than a JMM rematch, a Hatton showdown and a Diaz fight put together!

psychopath · 07-31-2008, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by djrock247

I don't know that I would say he's selling him out. He may be overestimating his ability but Pac would be crazy NOT to take this fight. If he gets KOed 20 seconds into the fight he'll walk away with more money than a JMM rematch, a Hatton showdown and a Diaz fight put together!

That's my stand all along . . . just a money fight.

enzo · 02-17-2011, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by IsaL

This guys is the one that jumped up and got wet when Oscar asked him to train him for the Mayweather fight, putting Manny second place.

Now after working with both very close and knowing that DLH is bigger, more powerful, and can potentially hurt Pac very bad with a series of left hooks or perhaps just one, he is tellin Pac he could beat DLH and even KNOCK him OUT!

Is Roach making Pac believe he can win because he wants another Trainer Mega Pay Day? I can't see how an expert, professional, and experienced trainer could actually believe this. I'm lead to believe he is selling Manny out for a Mega Pay day.

fucking uliuli...

Now you're the one making all these excuses.

MrGlass · 02-17-2011, 11:24 PM

doomeddisciple · 02-17-2011, 11:27 PM

There's way more threads like this around with bigger calls made than this one n00by mcbumpinthreads.

Overhill · 02-17-2011, 11:30 PM

Priceless thread!

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