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Old 07-31-2008, 06:41 AM   #1
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The best MW ever!
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Old 07-31-2008, 06:44 AM   #2
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The best MW ever!
I disagree. He was the best in a mediocre era but his dominance and his wins over fellow atg Hearns and Duran and his close fight with fellow atg Leonard guarantees him a place as a Top5 mw of all-time - personally i have him at 3.
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Old 07-31-2008, 06:44 AM   #3
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Top 10 all-time 160lber no doubt, and an icon of his age. The last proper mainstream blue collar champion IMO.
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Old 07-31-2008, 06:47 AM   #4
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I have Hagler at #1 (MW). He was my second least fave fighter of the Fab Four, though.
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Old 07-31-2008, 07:24 AM   #5
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I disagree. He was the best in a mediocre era but his dominance and his wins ver fellow atg Hearns and Duran and his close fight with fellow atg Leonard guarantees him a place as a Top5 mw of all-time - personally i have him at 3.
i wouldnt call it a mediocre era. minter, sibson, mugabi, hamsho, antfermo were all good fighters who were capable of having a good reign in another era

On his rise to the title, he beat some really good fighters in willie monroe, benny briscoe and bobby watts.

He beat elite ATG THomas Hearns in 3

I believe that Haglers reign would of been much longer if not for boxing politics
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Old 07-31-2008, 07:27 AM   #6
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i wouldnt call it a mediocre era. minter, sibson, mugabi, hamsho, antfermo were all good fighters who were capable of having a good reign in another era

On his rise to the title, he beat some really good fighters in willie monroe, benny briscoe and bobby watts.

He beat elite ATG THomas Hearns in 3

I believe that Haglers reign would of been much longer if not for boxing politics
Itīs just like with the hw but not as worse. If you compare it to other eras it was mediocre, just like the last mw era and what we have now.
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Old 07-31-2008, 07:33 AM   #7
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I would still argue Harry Greb. Billy Miske, Al McCoy, Jack Dillon, Battling Levinsky, Willie Meehan, Mike McTigue, Gunboat Smith, Solider Bartfield and Mike Gibbons are all victims of his at middleweight, not to mention his wins over the likes of Tommy Gibbons, Gene Tunney, Tommy Loughran, Kid Norfolk and Tiger Flowers at light-heavy when he weighed in around the middleweight limit still.
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Old 07-31-2008, 08:41 AM   #8
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Monzon beat better opposition and ranks higher, imo.
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I have the Marvelous one at #7:

15 Joey Giardello
14 Kid McCoy
13 Nino Benvenuti
12 Tony Zale
11 Marcel Cerdan
10 Roy Jones
9 Jack Dempsey
8 Harry Greb
7 Marvin Hagler
6 Bernard Hopkins
5 Mickey Walker
4 Charley Burley
3 Stanley Ketchel
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Wow Booze, Greb at 8?
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Wow Booze, Greb at 8?
Greb gets an excellent pound for pound rating though.
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I would still argue Harry Greb. Billy Miske, Al McCoy, Jack Dillon, Battling Levinsky, Willie Meehan, Mike McTigue, Gunboat Smith, Solider Bartfield and Mike Gibbons are all victims of his at middleweight, not to mention his wins over the likes of Tommy Gibbons, Gene Tunney, Tommy Loughran, Kid Norfolk and Tiger Flowers at light-heavy when he weighed in around the middleweight limit still.
harry got to be in the top 3
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Old 07-31-2008, 10:00 AM   #13
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Monzon beat better opposition and ranks higher, imo.
some would disagree with that. a lot of people say that he beat mostly welterweights.

i am not as knowlegable about CM but I know that he beat Bennie Briscoe and that Valdez fella twice. both were pretty hot in there day
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Old 07-31-2008, 10:01 AM   #14
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I have the Marvelous one at #7:

15 Joey Giardello
14 Kid McCoy
13 Nino Benvenuti
12 Tony Zale
11 Marcel Cerdan
10 Roy Jones
9 Jack Dempsey
8 Harry Greb
7 Marvin Hagler
6 Bernard Hopkins
5 Mickey Walker
4 Charley Burley
3 Stanley Ketchel
2 Ray Robinson
1 Carlos Monzon
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It´s just like with the hw but not as worse. If you compare it to other eras it was mediocre, just like the last mw era and what we have now.
i wouldnt compare it to todays heavyweights. there was a few good fighters about
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