Robinson's left hook v.s Jones's Left Hook/Uppercut?

[Bad_Intentions]

which one was the best left hook ever thrown?

robinson's left hook against gene fullmer II or roy jones left hook/uppercut against montell griffin II ??

[fists of fury]

I voted for Robinson's because I think he took out a tougher man. Both are great knockouts though, and I won't argue on it.

[Manassa]

Clearly Robinson's. Jones' was a lunging, wild attempt at a punch that happened to land on the right spot. Robinson's was far more calculated.

[ironchamp]

I guess the durability of Fulmer is what really tips me to lean towards SRR. But Jones is left hook/upper cut is definately a great punch.

[Senya13]

Unlike Fullmer, Griffin was a skilled and clever boxer.

[mr. magoo]

I like it when people use words like " skilled " and " Clever" to describe one fighter, while implying that the same didn't apply to great fighters like Gene Fullmer. Sounds like the all too familiar testimony of a typical ESB troll who never watched the fighters that he comments on.

[Senya13]

Seen:
1957-01-02 Gene Fullmer - Sugar Ray Robinson
1957-05-01 Sugar Ray Robinson - Gene Fullmer
1958-11-10 Gene Fullmer - Joe Miceli
1959-08-28 Gene Fullmer - Carmen Basilio
1960-04-20 Joey Giardello - Gene Fullmer
1960-06-29 Gene Fullmer - Carmen Basilio
1961-03-04 Gene Fullmer - Sugar Ray Robinson
1961-08-05 Gene Fullmer - Florentino Fernandez
1961-12-09 Gene Fullmer - Benny (Kid) Paret
1962-10-23 Dick Tiger - Gene Fullmer

[mr. magoo]

I think it's pretty commical how people think that just because they've listed some fights, that others will buy the notion that they've seen them. I particularly find these claims highly questionable in their integrity when the so called viewer professes that an all time great, who's fights he claims to have seen, was lacking in skill. A poster by the name of prime Frazier ( who has since been banned from ESB, ) did this very sort of thing. He called Ali-Frazier I the fight of the century, boring. I asked him if he indeed saw the fight, and he said that he had, yet was unsuccessful at taking the discussion any further than his falacious and ill upported claims.

[Manassa]

I doubt Senya owns those fights. Or if he does, he's just skimmed through them or perhaps not even attempted watching half of them.

[Senya13]

You want me post screenshots from every fight I listed above?
Which Fullmer fights have you seen yourself?

[Manassa]

Originally Posted by Senya13

You want me post screenshots from every fight I listed above?
Which Fullmer fights have you seen yourself?

I have seen enough, thanks. You can post screenshots if you want; I love the thought of you wasting your own time on something trivial.

[mr. magoo]

Originally Posted by Senya13

You want me post screenshots from every fight I listed above?
Which Fullmer fights have you seen yourself?

Anyone can go to youtube buddy. No creativity there. And by the way, I've seen some footage of him with Robinson, Basillio and Tiger on ESPN classic. You should try watching this network once in a while, it's a bit more helpful then just making half ass comments berating fighters that you've never watched. What's more, although the above mentioned fights that I listed were not exactly his best performances, he still looked rather impressive, showing that he must have been one hell of a good fighter on his better nights.

[mr. magoo]

This month's ESB dipshit award goes to Senya.

[Senya13]

I don't need youtube when I have those fights recorded at much better quality. I have some 80-90% of stuff ESPN Classic Sports has been showing (hundreds of fights and documentaries), most of them I've recorded myself (MPEG2 broadcast).

[SugarRay]

Originally Posted by mr. magoo

I like it when people use words like " skilled " and " Clever" to describe one fighter, while implying that the same didn't apply to great fighters like Gene Fullmer. Sounds like the all too familiar testimony of a typical ESB troll who never watched the fighters that he comments on.

Dude, everyone is entitled their own opinion. I see this become a war between you and senya13. So, there is no need to pour petrol into the flame.

I voted SRR myself. It was a much harder punch to throw and knock someone out as he was walking backwards. It's probably the best knockout punch ever.