Forgotten great lightweights

janitor · 07-26-2007, 09:28 AM

I do not need to tell anybody here that the lightweight division has an extremely talent rich history.

I think it is a division where all time greats get overlooked due to the low profile of the division and spme never make it due to the level of competition.

So here is a thread devoted to great lightweights who do not get enough exposure. Lets have some names.

mr. magoo · 07-26-2007, 09:47 AM

Benny Leonard comes to mind. Although Ray Mancini is mentioned on the forum every now and again, he happens to be one of my favorites as well.

Holmes' Jab · 07-26-2007, 09:48 AM

Jack McAuliffe, lack of footage (it being the 19th century an' all) is the main reason.

janitor · 07-26-2007, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Holmes' Jab

Jack McAuliffe, lack of footage (it being the 19th century an' all) is the main reason.

Good choice.

In his day he was regarded as something of a pound for pound Marvel.

Drew101 · 07-26-2007, 10:04 AM

I wouldn't say Benny Leonard is forgotten. He's generally considered a Top 3 atg lightweight, absolute minimum.

Joe Brown would be my choice.

janitor · 07-26-2007, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. magoo

Benny Leonard comes to mind.

If you had asked a panel of boxing writers to produce a list of the greatest lightweights of all when Leonard retired the top 3 would be-

1. Joe Gans
2. Kid Lavigne
3. Benny Leonard

If you did the same today he would still be in the top three and might well take the No1 spot.

This leads me to think that his legend has endured prety well.

jc · 07-26-2007, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by janitor

If you had asked a panel of boxing writers to produce a list of the greatest lightweights of all when Leonard retired the top 3 would be-

1. Joe Gans
2. Kid Lavigne
3. Benny Leonard

If you did the same today he would still be in the top three and might well take the No1 spot.

This leads me to think that his legend has endured prety well.

Interesting. i wonder why the aura around the legends of Gans and livigne has decreased then...

TBooze · 07-26-2007, 10:30 AM

Sammy Angott rarely gets mentioned; another excellent fighter at his best.

Manassa · 07-26-2007, 10:32 AM

Willie Joyce. At least the other mentions are in the Hall of Fame.

Stonehands89 · 07-26-2007, 10:41 AM

Former LW champ Sammy Mandell. He beat McLarnin, Petrolle, and Johnny Dundee.

mr. magoo · 07-26-2007, 10:44 AM

Freddy Pendleton is worth a mention

Manassa · 07-26-2007, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Stonehands89

Former LW champ Sammy Mandell. He beat McLarnin, Petrolle, and Johnny Dundee.

Not to mention Tony Canzoneri.

Stonehands89 · 07-26-2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Manassa

Not to mention Tony Canzoneri.

...and Babe Ruth.

Dempsey1238 · 07-26-2007, 11:51 AM

Rocky Kansas.

janitor · 07-26-2007, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jc

Interesting. i wonder why the aura around the legends of Gans and livigne has decreased then...

Probably due to lack of quality footage.

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janitor P4P King East Side VIP Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 19,020 vCash: 1000	Forgotten great lightweights I do not need to tell anybody here that the lightweight division has an extremely talent rich history. I think it is a division where all time greats get overlooked due to the low profile of the division and spme never make it due to the level of competition. So here is a thread devoted to great lightweights who do not get enough exposure. Lets have some names.
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mr. magoo Undisputed Champion East Side VIP Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Chicago, Illinois USA Posts: 12,494 vCash: 1000	Re: Forgotten great lightweights Benny Leonard comes to mind. Although Ray Mancini is mentioned on the forum every now and again, he happens to be one of my favorites as well.
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Drew101 Good To The Last Punch East Side Guru Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: "...The Land of Dixon and Langford..." Posts: 6,083 vCash: 21000	Re: Forgotten great lightweights I wouldn't say Benny Leonard is forgotten. He's generally considered a Top 3 atg lightweight, absolute minimum. Joe Brown would be my choice.
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TBooze Champion East Side Guru Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South of London Posts: 9,766 vCash: 1	Re: Forgotten great lightweights Sammy Angott rarely gets mentioned; another excellent fighter at his best.
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