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Old 07-27-2007, 06:39 AM   #16
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:21 AM   #17
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What was the name of that boxer who fought Dempsey... He was basically dying on his feet during the later parts of his career, but he still did really well at a very high level.
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:26 AM   #18
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Some of you guys make only examples who everybody knows, Janitor meant some who weren´t so famous. A good example IMO is Enrico Bertola, he died with only 26 years when he slowly entered his prime, because of serious brain injuries he suffered in the Oma fight...
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:28 AM   #19
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Ah, Eugene Hart was in a wheelchair early on in his life.
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Old 07-27-2007, 08:20 AM   #20
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What was the name of that boxer who fought Dempsey... He was basically dying on his feet during the later parts of his career, but he still did really well at a very high level.
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Old 07-27-2007, 09:54 AM   #21
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It's not in the same league as guys like Tarleton, but Shannon Briggs won a title despite being an asthma sufferer. As one myself, I can appreciate that.
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Old 07-27-2007, 10:59 AM   #22
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Nice to see a mention for one of Liverpool's (and Britain's) great fighters. Nel was regarded as one of the sweetest boxers in our history, the heir to Jem Driscoll. He was never stopped either if memory serves me correctly. He was also scheduled to fight Pep before Willie's plane crash.
That is correct, Nel never was stopped, and he could be an excellent candidate for IHOF induction in Canastota. (What might Nella have achieved with two good lungs?)
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Old 07-27-2007, 11:03 AM   #23
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That is correct, Nel never was stopped, and he could be an excellent candidate for IHOF induction in Canastota. (What might Nella have achieved with two good lungs?)
He wont be allowed in, he's English
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Old 07-27-2007, 12:13 PM   #24
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What was the name of that boxer who fought Dempsey... He was basically dying on his feet during the later parts of his career, but he still did really well at a very high level.
Billy Miske was diagnosed with Bright's Disease in 1916, and was given five years to live, provided he quit boxing and took care of himself. Having the attitude that he'd rather die in the ring than a rocking chair, Billy adapted to the realities of his condition, and boxed another 70 bouts following his diagnosis, survivng until 1924.

Miske's official record at the time of his diagnosis was:

11W(8 KO)+0L+0D+21ND

After Billy was diagnosed with Bright's Disease, he posted an official record of:

34W(26 KO)+2L+2D+33ND

His first official loss was a 12 round decision to up and coming Kid Norfolk in October 1917. Billy's second and final defeat came nearly three years later, when he was stopped for the only time in his career challenging Jack Dempsey for the heavyweight title in their third meeting, Jack's inaugural championship defense.

Miske closed out his career after the Dempsey loss by posting an official record of:

18W(13 KO)+0L+1D+5ND

Billy finished by knocking out Bill Brennan in four rounds, seven weeks before he died of his fatal illness. Not bad for a dying man.
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Old 07-27-2007, 12:15 PM   #25
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Miske was just... amazing. Honestly.

No other way to put it.
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Old 07-27-2007, 12:15 PM   #26
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Billy Miske was diagnosed with Bright's Disease in 1916, and was given five years to live, provided he quit boxing and took care of himself. Having the attitude that he'd rather die in the ring than a rocking chair, Billy adapted to the realities of his condition, and boxed another 70 bouts following his diagnosis, survivng until 1924.

Miske's official record at the time of his diagnosis was:

11W(8 KO)+0L+0D+21ND

After Billy was diagnosed with Bright's Disease, he posted an official record of:

34W(26 KO)+2L+2D+33ND

His first official loss was a 12 round decision to up and coming Kid Norfolk in October 1917. Billy's second and final defeat came nearly three years later, when he was stopped for the only time in his career challenging Jack Dempsey for the heavyweight title in their third meeting, Jack's inaugural championship defense.

Miske closed out his career after the Dempsey loss by posting an official record of:

18W(13 KO)+0L+1D+5ND

Billy finished by knocking out Bill Brennan in four rounds, seven weeks before he died of his fatal illness. Not bad for a dying man.
Tragic tragic human interest story.

Miskes life would have made a better subject for a film than Jimmy Braddock's.
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Old 07-27-2007, 12:17 PM   #27
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He wont be allowed in, he's English
Perhaps, but he's not forgotten here.
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Old 07-27-2007, 12:33 PM   #28
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Tragic tragic human interest story.

Miske's life would have made a better subject for a film than Jimmy Braddock's.
Over 50 years ago, Minneapolis Tribune sportswriter George A. Barton wrote a moving two page article titled, "Billy Miske's Last Christmas," which he reprinted in his 1957 autobiography, "My Lifetime in Sports."

Unfortunately, as is the case with Jimmy Braddock's story, too much time has elapsed for the modern viewing public to relate to such a story as this. (Cinderella Man should have been produced back when "Somebody Up There Likes Me" became a box office hit for Paul Newman.) Not enough people who recall Miske's times are alive now to make colorful stories like his and Mickey Walker's economically viable. Still, it could make for wonderful drama if produced with caring skill.

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Old 07-27-2007, 12:45 PM   #29
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A china chin is one thing, but becoming P4P number one with china hands is simply amazing -fullstop-
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Old 07-27-2007, 12:50 PM   #30
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Nelson Tarleton won multiple Lonsdale Belts despite having only one functioning lung, after having contracted TB as a kid. Nel's final record was 116W (KO 41) 20L 8D. Despite having one functioning lung, Nella went 15 rounds fifty times in a professional career that lasted nearly twenty years.
Thats amazing
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