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Old 08-07-2008, 12:30 PM   #61
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Williams, Sanders, and Hide are NOT top 5 ATG's. Top 15? Absolutely.
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:33 PM   #62
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Williams, Sanders, and Hide are NOT top 5 ATG's. Top 15? Absolutely.


What a post!

Dude, you won the internet.

Please post your Top-15 ATG's including Williams, Sanders and Hide.
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:38 PM   #63
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This quote on the main site, in the article about Zuri Lawrence, sums up the "Vitali/Holy/Golota shoulder injury" situation up nicely.....

Courage is the discovery that you may not win, and trying when you know you can lose.
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:40 PM   #64
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Why do i ask?

because they are the only 3 names on Vitali Klitschos resume that holds wins against! so i dont know why all HYPE on this guy.....he has never beaten ANYONE of note...... ANYONE....
Danny Williams destroyed the future HOFer Mike Tyson and Corrie Sanders Destroyed the current Heavyweight kingpin Wlad Klitschko.

It's not so much who Vitali beat but the manner in which he beat them. Accomplishment-wise he isn't very highly ranked for me, but Head-to-Head he is.
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:47 PM   #65
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As requested, the undisputed Top 15 ATG's at HW.

15. Brian Nielsen

14. Mike Tyson

13. Herbie Hide

12. Danny Williams

11. Wlad Klitschko

10. Corrie Sanders

9. Vitali Klitschko

8. Under-prepared, Past It Lennox Lewis

7. Tony 'TNT' Tucker

6. Tony Tubbs

5. Trevor Berbick

4. Bonecrusher Smith

3. ALI

2. Prime, Motivated Lennox Lewis

1. Prime Mike "Gamma Radiation Overdose" Tyson
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Old 08-07-2008, 12:48 PM   #66
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As requested, the undisputed Top 15 ATG's at HW.

15. Brian Nielsen
14. Mike Tyson
13. Herbie Hide
12. Danny Williams
11. Wlad Klitschko
10. Corrie Sanders
9. Vitali Klitschko
8. Under-prepared, Past It Lennox Lewis
7. Tony 'TNT' Tucker
6. Tony Tubbs
5. Trevor Berbick
4. Bonecrusher Smith
3. ALI
2. Prime, Motivated Lennox Lewis
1. Prime Mike "Gamma Radiation Overdose" Tyson
You rule.

It's not quite ridiculous enough to be a parody, but clearly not serious. You, sir, are some kind of mad genius. I salute you.
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:00 PM   #67
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yes but pushing back against the fighter (such as, you jab I catch it and push back, is illegal and can cause serious injury like he did)
Show me the rule that says that.

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Why do you think, Vitali, Golota supposely, and Holyfield ALL had rotator cuff injuries DURING their fight with Chris?
Because they all missed badly on multiple occasions, in all probability. I'm not a physiologist, but I can hardly see how having your arm pushed back would result in a rotator-cuff injury (I do FAR more intense things to my rotator-cuff when at a powerlifting meet) but I can see how missing wildly when hitting with the force of a speeding car could tear a muscle. Missing powerful punches is what results in most arm injuries in boxing, as far as I know.
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:10 PM   #68
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A torn rotator cuff


See if you can find on youtube danny williams vs mark potter, williams dislocates his arm and fights on koing potter one handed while is other arm is just hanging
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Old 08-07-2008, 01:53 PM   #69
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Herbie Hide was a two time WBO HW Champion of the world. He beat everybody and had a very great chin.

Corrie Sanders was also a WBO HW Champ. He was always in shape, never too fat. Sanders was always training a lot.

Williams had no belt but, but he beat up guys like prime Tyson and................. .

All three guys are ATG. Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, Lennox Lewis, Evander Holyfield, George Foreman, Joe Frazier, Herbie , the Chin, Hide, Danny ,holy sh...t, Williams, Corrie, the belly, Sanders!

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Old 08-07-2008, 03:03 PM   #70
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I dont get it either, you forgot Kirk Johnson by the way, who looked to be just in the ring for the paycheck that night. Vitali's resume is almost as weak as Wlad's chin, the guy lost against the only 2 guys worth a **** on his resume (Bryd, Lewis). Vitali was a very good fighter, but rarely tested, and when he was he lost.

You are disturbing. Every post you make has a reference to Wlad. That is ****ed up.
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Old 08-07-2008, 03:04 PM   #71
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And who says Vitali is an ATG? He still could be but it is highly unlikely because of his physical condition.

Only argument that can be made for Vitali is his ability in head to heads against ATG's.

Another dumb thread to hate.
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Old 08-07-2008, 03:21 PM   #72
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And who says Vitali is an ATG? He still could be but it is highly unlikely because of his physical condition.

Only argument that can be made for Vitali is his ability in head to heads against ATG's.

Another dumb thread to hate.
Vitali will never be an atg now he is to old the last 4 years should of been where he could of ruled nevermind hey
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Old 08-07-2008, 03:54 PM   #73
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Vitali will never be an atg now he is to old the last 4 years should of been where he could of ruled nevermind hey
He could be, though highly doubtful. If he can get on a 4 fight run against all elite fighters, he would have to be placed at the very lowest tier of ATG's.
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Old 08-07-2008, 04:10 PM   #74
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Why do i ask?

because they are the only 3 names on Vitali Klitschos resume that holds wins against! so i dont know why all HYPE on this guy.....he has never beaten ANYONE of note...... ANYONE....
These are not ATG fighters and anyone who seriously thinks so, is off their rockers.
They were all decent B-C level fighters, but mainly big punchers with glaring flaws. Also you could also throw in Kirk Johnson & Larry Donald too as they are of a similar level as the three above names and were contenders at one time or another.

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Old 08-07-2008, 04:37 PM   #75
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Nobody said they were ATG fighters....
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Williams, Sanders, and Hide are NOT top 5 ATG's. Top 15? Absolutely.
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